Iron X vs Sonax Full Effect Wheel Cleaner

Hi Four20



Was looking at your pics and saw you have Xpel. How do you like it? My wife’s Subaru is/was getting stone chips on the front of the hood and was thinking that would have been a good idea. The hood got key a few weeks back so was seriously considering it after we get it repainted.



I just got my Blackfire from CMA, so weather permitting I’ll be doing that this weekend. Been totally happy with Klasse by got the itch to try the new stuff.

:xyxthumbs





SJS
 
Hey Sharkie! You were the one that was on IS300.net that recommended me to this site and to use Klasse! Thanks to you and my buddy, I am learning a whole lot! :up



The Xpel is great. I highly recommend getting it done as soon as you fix the imperfections. It is a great investment to make and you will not regret it. I have my hood, front bumper, headlights, foglights, and side-view mirrors done. I got it done the moment I drove it off the lot. It is barely noticeable, in fact, none of my friends or family knew I had it on until I showed them. The only visible part (only when standing off to the side of the car at an angle) is the line on the hood. The way I see it is, have a line on your hood that is barely noticeable, or have some chips?



The Xpel will be more visible on dark colored cars, and on a light colored car such as silver, it is practically invisible. This is one investment many car enthusiasts overlook whether it be lack of knowledge of the product, or the "line on the hood" bothers them too much. IMO, get it ASAP, you won't be disappointed :xyxthumbs
 
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I just got my Blackfire from CMA, so weather permitting I’ll be doing that this weekend. Been totally happy with Klasse by got the itch to try the new stuff.
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I think you will be quite pleased with Blackfire. Take notice of the additional dust attraction, if any, that you experience. I'm curious to know if it is as common as I think it is. I wonder what causes it? Anyway, you are going to love Blackfire. One coat and you will love it. 3 or 4 is about maximum for that product though. I put 5 coats on my car and really didn't see much of a change from the 4th to the 5th. No sense in wasting it. That stuff costs money. :D
 
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I think you will be quite pleased with Blackfire. Take notice of the additional dust attraction, if any, that you experience. I'm curious to know if it is as common as I think it is. I wonder what causes it? Anyway, you are going to love Blackfire. One coat and you will love it. 3 or 4 is about maximum for that product though. I put 5 coats on my car and really didn't see much of a change from the 4th to the 5th. No sense in wasting it. That stuff costs money. :D [/b]</blockquote>
Yeah looking forward to trying the Blackfire, glad you are pleased with the results. The car is a total dust magnet now, I can’t imagine it getting any worse. Especially at this time of the year, a good gust comes up and you see plumes of yellows dust coming off the pine tress that makes a beeline for newly washed vehicles. :rolleyes: But I’ll keep an eye out and report back.

SJS
 
Since I am still a noobie with a lot of this, I have an interesting question about Iron X and Sonax Full Effect Wheel Cleaner.
Could they be used interchangeably? I realize Sonax is for wheels and Iron X is for painted surfaces, but they are both ph neutral and seem to do the same thing. They both even turn red upon contact with iron particles, and Sonax says its safe for all wheels. Painted wheels do have a baked on clear coat normally so I can see where it may damage softer clear coats possibly. Under that way of thinking would Iron X not be as potent if used on wheels since it is safer for softer clear coats? Just was wondering about this and figured I would ask the experts. It just seems redundant to me to have 2 cleaners that can do the same thing.
 
From what I have heard, you can apply Iron X to both but Sonax just to wheels. I have used both products and Sonax works great on wheels, IronX works great on both paint and wheels. I would buy IronX because of being able to use on paint and wheels. I don't clay a car with out it anymore. Bad ass product.
 
Interesting. Thanks for the response. Maybe Sonax is formulated to react better to brake dust than just iron. The parking lot where I work is about 25 yards from train tracks. Trains go by about every 30 min or so. So I woould like to get Iron X to use before I clay my car. I already use Tarminator to get rid of other bugs and nasties. Hopefully Iron X will be the only product I need to buy as I try to keep the brake dust to a minimum on the wheels.
 
Sonax is formulated to remove not only the iron, but the break dust as well. IronX will only remove the iron particles imbedded in the paint or wheels.
 
bmw5541 said:
Sonax is formulated to remove not only the iron, but the break dust as well. IronX will only remove the iron particles imbedded in the paint or wheels.
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Ok so say I were to use Sonax the same way as Iron X. Spray it on my hood and watch all the little iron particles turn red then rinse it off. Would I see much of a difference? Maybe a side by side test of the two is in order.

I feel awkward asking this as its almost like comparing apples to oranges. I realize Sonax is for wheels but who says it can't be used on the rest of the car? Kind of like ONR as a clay lube. Not really its intended purpose but still well within is range of usefulness. I didn't want to post the usual "which is better" question as I would like some background info on each product so others and I can make an informed decision about what product would work best for themselves.

Thanks for the replies hopefully this will turn into a useful thread. :biggrin:
 
dpkilty said:
Ok so say I were to use Sonax the same way as Iron X. Spray it on my hood and watch all the little iron particles turn red then rinse it off. Would I see much of a difference? Maybe a side by side test of the two is in order.

I feel awkward asking this as its almost like comparing apples to oranges. I realize Sonax is for wheels but who says it can't be used on the rest of the car? Kind of like ONR as a clay lube. Not really its intended purpose but still well within is range of usefulness. I didn't want to post the usual "which is better" question as I would like some background info on each product so others and I can make an informed decision about what product would work best for themselves.

Thanks for the replies hopefully this will turn into a useful thread. :biggrin:
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From the information that I have gathered on this forum as well as others, it appears that Sonax is safe on paint, as I have seen others use it that way with good results. I have to say that I have no first hand experience using Sonax Full Effect on paint, so this is all second hand information. The active ingredients appear to be very similar.
 
Thanks Barry,

Another reason for this thread is I am contemplating doing a little mobile this summer, and having a product that has multiple uses would be stellar. ONR will be a must, and either Sonax or Iron X will be another. Right now I am leaning towards Sonax (as the little bit I have looked it seems to be cheaper, but I could be wrong). I may give up some performance in removing particles in the paint, but I can deal with that as I will be claying anyways. It will make up for it shortcomings as a wheel cleaner though (hopefully as I have never used either product).
So any other general info or past experiences with either product is more than welcome. Shoot if there is another similar product out there mention it too.
 
I have heard that people do not get the same results when trying to use Sonax on paint, but it could have been the vehicle or contaminants in the clear. I just used Iron X on my wheels inside and out after cleaning with AG CWC and it did an incredible job, too bad it stinks like crazy.

-Kody-
 
I recently did a C4 vette that had some really bad Rail dust, or iron particles on the rear bumper, I dont have any Iron X yet, and clay bar would have take forever. So I used my Sonax and took some pictures of how well it did....

I clayed the car, and it was still there.

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So I sprayed the Sonax on it.

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Hope this answers some questions?
 
:drool5:
Great info.

So from what I am gathering so far, both products are really good. Iron X works great for paint, good for wheels, and needs to be used in a wind tunnel because of the fumes. Sonax is great on wheels, good on paint, and isn't as bad fume wise.

A bottle of Iron X or Sonax would definitely have its place in a mobile detailers arsenal, but one could get by with just one or the other. I may try to get a smaller bottle of Iron X to try on stubborn particles that Sonax might not be able to get off.

Thanks for all the replies to this. Hope someone was able to learn something. I know it helped me, even if it just muddied the waters more. :D
 
dpkilty said:
:drool5:
Great info.

So from what I am gathering so far, both products are really good. Iron X works great for paint, good for wheels, and needs to be used in a wind tunnel because of the fumes. Sonax is great on wheels, good on paint, and isn't as bad fume wise.

A bottle of Iron X or Sonax would definitely have its place in a mobile detailers arsenal, but one could get by with just one or the other. I may try to get a smaller bottle of Iron X to try on stubborn particles that Sonax might not be able to get off.

Thanks for all the replies to this. Hope someone was able to learn something. I know it helped me, even if it just muddied the waters more. :D
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Who said Sonax isn't as bad fume wise?....lol
It stinks. Kinda smells like rotten eggs, but it works great.
 
bmw5541 said:
Who said Sonax isn't as bad fume wise?....lol
It stinks. Kinda smells like rotten eggs, but it works great.
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Awesome. I love rotten eggs. lol

Its just everything I have seen with both products, nobody really complains about Sonax. Whereas I have seen multiple people mention Iron X's fumes being really bad. Either way they both stink. Ha.
 
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