Interesting quote on Meguiars new 205

MDRX8 said:
I can't see it would be better than PO85RD or 106FF



It isn't, but it isn't supposed to be, imo. They are different, and I use them all in different situations. In my experience, 205 has much more cut than 106ff/rd/fpi/fpii, etc... that means it's perfect after 105. The menz finishing polishes are generally useless right after 105 because they don't have the cut to remove 105 marring. So basically I approach it like this.



If I am am using 105, most of the time I will follow with 205. In a lot of cases at that point I am done, which is awesome because it saves me a lot of time. If the paint is soft or I want to jewel the paint I will use a menz polish after 205. Another example - I just one-stepped an a4 with light marring and hard paint with 205. I rarely do one steps but with 205 I can; with 105 I can't because it doesn't finish clean enough and with the menz finishing polishes I can't because they have virtually no cut.



So ya, different uses on different paints.
 
Kevin Brown said:
Was the declaration very far off the mark? I am interested to hear whether you believe M205 to be:



1. A favorite of yours. :woot:



2. A product you are still "on the fence" about. :hm



3. An evil, evil foe! :wall





I've played around with 205 via PCXP on the last 3 cars I've done (after prior product correction) and every time I've compared it to Menzerna 85RD on adjacent panels, the Menzerna looked noticeably better.



Kevin - Have you ever tried any Menzerna products? I'd be interested to know what you thought in comparison if so.
 
I have, but very limited, so I cannot give a fair comparison.



This is the reason I never give advice on Menzerna (or other products that I do not have a lot of experience with).:nixweiss



I have a couple dispenser bottles of Menzerna given to me by PorscheGuy997 that I need to break in to.

As it stands, I have a great opportunity to do some "blind testing" next week.

So I certainly will! Pics, too if I get the chance! :dance



I will see if I have the 85rd and take it along. Is that the only one you recommend I try?
 
The only time I use 85rd is if the paint is already corrected and I'm interested in achieving the extra gloss. "MOST" of the time I can go from M105 to 106FA via white pad and finish down with great results. If not, I'll use Menz 203 Power Finish after M105 and then finish with 85rd.
 
Got_Leather said:
The only time I use 85rd is if the paint is already corrected and I'm interested in achieving the extra gloss. "MOST" of the time I can go from M105 to 106FA via white pad and finish down with great results. If not, I'll use Menz 203 Power Finish after M105 and then finish with 85rd.



Are you using a rotary or DA for this? I've never been able to go from 105 to 106 unless I am using 105 on a white pad or less (which is rare). 106ff/fa just never seem to have the cut to remove 105 marring for me.
 
Has anyone here tried using M205 on an Orange LC pad via DA? This is my favorite go-to combination, just wondering if any others have found this wonderful combo as well?
 
Picus said:
Are you using a rotary or DA for this? I've never been able to go from 105 to 106 unless I am using 105 on a white pad or less (which is rare). 106ff/fa just never seem to have the cut to remove 105 marring for me.



On harder paints I can do 105 via orange, then 106fa white and get 95% and looks great. Remember, I said most paint too, not all. Makita btw. Every car is different it sucks never knowing what to expect lol.
 
PresdntialDtail said:
Has anyone here tried using M205 on an Orange LC pad via DA? This is my favorite go-to combination, just wondering if any others have found this wonderful combo as well?



By DA I use it with the yellow Meguiars polishing pad, seems to work quite well. I use the same pad via rotary, which is what I use if the paint needs (and the customer is paying for) deeper polishing than the DA is capable of.
 
MDRX8 said:
Why don't you compare it to 205 ???



I thought that's what I was going to do? :hm See below:



David Fermani said:
I've played around with 205 via PCXP on the last 3 cars I've done (after prior product correction) and every time I've compared it to Menzerna 85RD on adjacent panels, the Menzerna looked noticeably better.



Kevin - Have you ever tried any Menzerna products? I'd be interested to know what you thought in comparison if so.
 
PresdntialDtail said:
Has anyone here tried using M205 on an Orange LC pad via DA? This is my favorite go-to combination, just wondering if any others have found this wonderful combo as well?



I didn't get all that much correction with the orange LC pad, but it made for a

nice follow up to some aggressive M105 work that left lots of micromarring (the kind that's only visible under the SunGun). I had to use 4" pads via PC, but larger ones worked fine on the Flex.



I sorta prefer the Griot's orange pad for this when working with the Flex, finishes out a lot nicer and still does almost as much correction (with M205) as the LC orange. Not that I find M205 does all that much correction on hard clear anyhow...I wouldn't be happy with it as a one-step the way a lot of people are (not sure what I *would* think is a nice one-step either :think: ).
 
Superior__Shine said:
I must be doing something wrong. I use one product brand on all my cars I detail all the time.

:soscared: HOLY SMOKES! :hairpull



:shocked IS THAT LEGAL?! :nervous2:



:nana: SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE... SAY IT AIN'T SO! :bat




Well, with a few exceptions (lacquer thinner, wax & grease remover, various accessories, and a couple ol' favorites to change things up), so do I!



I do try to stay updated on paint products that possibly rival my Meg's go-to compounds and polishes, plus we both blind test (sometimes together), so I will be trying some Menzerna products next week.



Perhaps then I can offer a "newbie" opinion.

I suspect that I will get a better finish with M105 or M205 because I have used them SOOO much, and can get pretty solid performance from this duo.



BUT!- The way I give an honest comparison is to use a product as-if it is now my ONLY liquid I get to use.

So, I will do my best to cut, polish, & finish with it using any possible means.

I don't know if I will have time to use Menzerna to that degree this time, but I certainly look forward to the session.



You should meet up with us!

I could use your humor at 10:00, 2:00, and 4:00 (like a Dr. Pepper)!



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After testing Menzerna you guys need to put a plan of attack together for the Meg's folks to take some of that OEM level marketshare away from the Europeans. :idea:D If being a Meg's 100 percenter is working for you guys then the rest of the world should be following suit.....
 
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