Initial Thoughts on Sonus SFX

TW85 HHI said:


Here is a picture after I did half of the hood with SFX1 and the SFX1 cutting pad with the PC set at 4.5.
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Did you ever go higher than 4.5? If not, this may have something to do with the oily residue left behind.
 
I think the product might have broken up better if you worked it on speed 6. That might the why it left behind a residue. :nixweiss
 
Yes, I had the PC up to 6 at one point, and 5.5 for several panels. The speed did not impact the residue or dusting problems.



Todd,



The products definitely work. They are just a royal PITA to take off the paint. :eek:
 
stevet said:
3M Perfect It III Rubbing Compound dusts very little. Great product.
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You are correct. That single product is probably one of the best compounds out there. I am still using my leftover PI II RC that dusts a little more but is a tad bit stronger too.
 
I ordered the SFX Kit and I'm now worried about the problems you have experienced with it. If anyone else has ordered, could you please also put your review in this thread?



Thanks

Carl
 
I'm anxious to see the seven other reviews. I really do think this product will be like Klasse SG where it works great for some and is a nightmare for others. I tried everything I could think of to make it more user friendly and failed.
 
Well, I will not be looking for an excuse to not give you a sample. Are you going to be detailing either of your parents' vehicles?



How much do you want for the Paste Glaz?
 
I don't know.....maybe this isn't so good for me. I'm more of a novice at this, do you think I should exchange it for the 1Z Polishes, instead? Those have been around longer and have gotten good reviews. I have Menzerna IP and FPII also ordered, and then I wanted to try a different polish, so how different is 1z from Menzerna?



These sour reviews on SFX are making me feel like I made a mistake. If I try the polish and don't like it, can I return it or only if it's never been used?



Carl
 
I know Autopia has a 100% satisfaction guarantee on some items but I do not know if the SFX system is included. Ask David. I think I am the only one to review the SFX line so far. Do not rely solely on my opinion.



I will not be using anything but the Poorboy's SSR line from now on...unless there is a more user friendly product that gives equal results, then Poorboy's, move out of the way!
 
pigeonbus said:
I don't know.....maybe this isn't so good for me. I'm more of a novice at this, do you think I should exchange it for the 1Z Polishes, instead? Those have been around longer and have gotten good reviews. I have Menzerna IP and FPII also ordered, and then I wanted to try a different polish, so how different is 1z from Menzerna?



These sour reviews on SFX are making me feel like I made a mistake. If I try the polish and don't like it, can I return it or only if it's never been used?



Carl
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Carl, it really is only one review. Like TW85 said, there are some folks like me that just struggle with SG and then you have folks like him that take to it like a fish to water.



Give it a try and see what you think...David did the giveaway to get honest feedback from a variety of people. A novice like yourself will look at things a bit differently than someone that has been into detailing for 20 years...a great product will meet the needs of both.



Plus your getting some pads too...if you don't like it I'm sure someone will work out a trade with you.
 
pigeonbus said:
I don't know.....maybe this isn't so good for me. I'm more of a novice at this, do you think I should exchange it for the 1Z Polishes, instead? Those have been around longer and have gotten good reviews. I have Menzerna IP and FPII also ordered, and then I wanted to try a different polish, so how different is 1z from Menzerna?



These sour reviews on SFX are making me feel like I made a mistake. If I try the polish and don't like it, can I return it or only if it's never been used?



Carl
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First of all, the menzerna twins are somewhat finicky and are really more user friendly when applied with a rotary. They will work with a PC too, but they REALLY shine with a rotary.



As far as the SFX line, keep in mind that this is just one users opinion. There are another seven reviews yet to come in. I suggest that you contact who you bought the products from and explain to them your concerns, and see what they recommend you do. On the other hand, you will learn that detailing is based on trial and error so trying out both the SFX and Menzerna line will be a learning experience nonetheless.



As far as whether you should have bought 1Z products instead, that is entirely up to you. Something must have swayed you to choose the products you did, so I would stick with my gut feeling if I were you......at least for now. :)
 
TW85 HHI said:
Well, I will not be looking for an excuse to not give you a sample. Are you going to be detailing either of your parents' vehicles?



How much do you want for the Paste Glaz?
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I'm definitely doing the Tahoe...it has some paint transfer...that is my Christmas present to them. I'd like to do the Volvo too...my Dad has been sick and I think he'd actually listen about washing it properly.



Email me about the Paste Glaz...I'm sure we can work something out.
 
I've seen them in their Tahoe a couple of times in the last week. Actually, today there were right next to me in the left lane on 278, LOL. Does your dad wash the cars or do they go to one of the several quicky washes?
 
They go to a quick wash place...can't remember the name. As an Autopian I'm appalled, but at least they try to keep them clean, right?
 
I have been watching this discussion with interest. I would like to provide a little input on usage of SFX-1 polish.



The SFX-1 polish works fast and breaks down fast. This is difficult to achieve on a DA system. The SFX-1 pad is what causes the polish to start working fast, as it efficiently transfers energy. To keep the polish from heating up too fast, it's necessary to first prime the pad with detailing spray.



It is also important to use enough polish to completely wet the surface you're polishing. If you use too little polish it will dry out too fast and cause the dusting problem.
 
One aspect of testing/reviewing a product is also problem solving and developing minor tweeks that will help with the usage of a product for future users.

Did you try moistening the pad? Distilled water? QD?

Using more or less product?

Varied the area of polishing?

Stripping any oil/wax from the surface prior to polishing (i.e. IPA wipedown)?

I find that dusting usually can be solved with increasing the time before "flashing" (wet pad) and / or using more or less product.



It is easy to point out problems when using a product for the first time. Most products have a small learnig curve.

I do not believe that a product can be successfully used by one detailer and completely useless to the another detailer unless their techniques, painted surface, environment are completely different. Most vehicle paints are quite similiar, basic detailing skills are universal and something that works in Texas should also work in Amsterdam.

Experiment with your test product and see if you can add some insight into its usage.



This is not a criticism of your honest review and diligent efforts, but a critique on not trying to solve the problem (dusting) and switching products prior to trying alternative methods.
 
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