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reghu

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Hello everyone,

i am very pleased to be on this forum, well, i am from india and around here, we dont have too many people into detailing, folks around here are limited to polishing using rubbing compunds or teflon protection from DuPont or Formula 1 waxes. Most of the stuff that u guys talk about, i havent heard abt here in india. we do have tyre dressers, i personally use STP Son of a Gun tyre dresser , formula 1 Car wax & shampoo for washing and Formula 1 wax for waxing.

Recently i had the brake callipers painted red, the paint was a lacquer based paint, i am not too sure abt this, so i thought i would post and ask u guys. is it ok, ??

besides, for removing tar, does anyone have a solution that can be prepared at home, because we dont get any of the cleaning solutions here.



thanks

reghu
 
A homebrew solution for tar is kerosene I beleive. Also, let me beat ejant to the punch...



:welcome
 
Hello reghu and welcome to Autopia:wavey



I think it is pretty cool that we have detailers all around the world and I am even more surprised at the types of products you have there.



If I read your letter correctly you are asking if there is a home made remedy for tar removal, correct? Well if that be correct then I would say that it depends mainly on just how much tar we are talking about. For light to moderate tar you can get by with scrapping off the top layer of tar with your fingernail and then removing the remainder with whatever paint cleaner you have been using to preclean your paint. It is time consuming but effective.



Some people use kerosene or even paint thinner but I personally would not recommend those.



What types of de-greasers do you have access to?



Hope that helps,

Anthony
 
duh!, i am not sure i have access to a de-greaser, but i think i have seen the guy at paitn booth use one, to clean my trim after painting my air vents, anyway, thanks for ur help.



what abt the caliper paint, any ideas
 
I remember when I was little, I had the bright idea of riding my bicycle through a bunch of tar. My caring mom went to work with peanut butter and got it pretty clean. Since this is a product you probably have around, I think it might be worth a shot.



A de-greaser is a chemical that removes grease, not some kind of fancy machine. (just to clear up some possible confusion) A houehold degreaser that I use is "Simple Green". Even a strong mixture of soap might dislodge the tar in question.



As far as your calipers, I don't know if there is much you can do to dress/protect them. If I were you and felt I had to do something, I might dress them with STP Son of a Gun that you have. Calipers get hot and most anything will evaporate. I'm also guessing that the calipers are not smooth (rather course from casting) and a conventional wax would get stuck and turn white and look bad.



Welcome, and keep posting here!
 
Welcome to Autopia! :welcome I think you may be one of the only members from India as far as I know!



I'm not too sure about using lacquer on calipers either. :nixweiss Most people here tend to use either specific caliper paint or at least a high temperature engine paint of some kind.



Even though your choice of products is limited, some of the basic principles should still apply. You'll just have to modify the steps to fit in what you have available to you I suppose. The only product I recognize is the Son of a Gun. :D It should be perfectly okay to use as far as I know.
 
thanks a bunch guys, will keep posting,although i am relatively new to all this, i just wish some dealer would get all the stuff u guys have, i would love to work on my car with them.

its such a pity, we dont get all those stuff here. i am surprised u havent heard abt formula 1, its imported form the USA and i jsut ran a search on google http://www.formula1wax.com/ from northern labs, someone check it out please. i hope its genuine stuff.

also isnt there anythin called teflon coating , its a product Dupont Paints (hope you guys have heard abt this) www.dupont.com its a 7 layer treatment that for exterior car detailing. anyone heard abt this anywhere. anyway fill me in on this guys thanks. and check out these sites too.
 
Hey, I was just looking at http://www.kitwax.com/ which is sold locally. It looks the same as the formula1 stuff.



To be honest, the line doesn't look too impressive to me, but if it works for you (someone that has tried it) then let us know! Maybe you found a new secret!
 
:welcome Kit does look similar to the Formula 1 packaging as CRX pointed out. Although I've never used Kit wax, I've heard they are pretty much on the same level as Turtle Wax products. I tried thier Scratch out about 6 years ago and it was non-effective.
 
Kit and Formula 1 seem to be the same company. Both are by Northern Labs.



From what I've heard the (paste) wax doesn't have fantastic durability, but it's better than nothing. If you can find Eagle One products you may be better off as they make a very good line of products in general and "okay" waxes, although the WET Polish & Wax is the only one I hear about mainly. If you can get paste waxes they usually last longer.



Not too many people here like the idea of things using Teflon as something to protect your car. Usually this is because Teflon is useless as a car protectant unless applied at hundreds of degrees and even DuPont doesn't endorse such use. I didn't find anything on their website that sounded like car wax.... Try running a Title Search on "teflon".
 
thanks for the url, i have sent the guy an email, hopefully he will get back. btw kitwax and formula 1 look the same, i think i didnt apply it too well, there were some marks on the bonnet.the stuff looks bogus to me now that u guys mention, anyway think eagle is better, but it is more expensive. i will have to finish this can anyhow.

thanks again
 
Actually one thing that hasn't been brought up yet is any of the polishing products we like to use here. Unfortunately companies like Meguiar's and 3M make most of the mildly abrasive products that we prefer to use here to remove swirls. It doesn't sound like you can get these over there?



Maybe you could use some of the Kit/Formula 1 scratch remover instead or something similar but relatively gentle... check this out: http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24099&highlight=kit+scratch



About the Teflon coating thing, even if it is possible I don't think you'll find many in favour of it here because of the way Autopia is. Most of the members tend to be enthusiasts that care just as much about the appearance of the car and getting to work on it, as they do about protection. While covering a car in some Teflon-based product (I don't think you can just coat a car in pure Teflon) may protect it from chemicals, it won't protect it from abrasion and swirls. This is why every year or twice a year people get their polishes out and polish the whole car over again. Durability and absolute protection are nice to have and talk about, but honestly in the average "Autopian" mindset durability doesn't matter much because we're constantly re-waxing!



You'll also find a lot of mistrust on this forum about anything making claims of Teflon, as many products in the US used to claim Teflon content several years ago but did not show any improvement over other products. In other words it was shown to be a marketing trick.



I'm not saying the coating doesn't work or exist, I'm just trying to explain why there hasn't been a lot of talk (or users) about such coatings here....
 
i kind of agree that this teflon thing might be just another marketing gimmick,i had it done on my car a year back, then these guys offer a service every 3 months for free for 1 year. now all my free services are over and now its time to do it again. but ths time i dropped it in favour of doing a waxing by myself. think this is more cool, and keeps me connected to my car , dont know guess its a special feeling that all u people at autopia would readily accept. besides its so much more satisfying to just look at ur car after all the hard work gone in, than after someone else has done it

thanks for the replies guys,
 
Jake11375 said:
....I tried thier Scratch out about 6 years ago and it was non-effective.



I'm surprised you got these results...was this, perhaps, when you expected too much from a product like this? In the post mentioned by 4DSC, it seems to have gotten fairly good reviews and reportedly has definate abrasives to it (see the post for more info). Also, although it was worthless as a scratch remover, might it work as a hand swirl remover in your opinion? No, I haven't gotten the stuff yet...maybe when I run out of Meguiars Scratch X...
 
I tried it on hairline scratches. I rubbed the product in until I completely disappeared, then went over it again the same way several times afterward. It seems it would have gotten those scratches out as they weren't etched in too deep. I don't have that car any more to test against Meguiar's X. Maybe the formula was a little different then, I don't know.:nixweiss Glad someone is getting some good use out of it. Maybe I'll try it again one day, it's a lot cheaper that Megs Scratch X.:)
 
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