infiniti has a paint that "fixes" fine scratches itself

mikeinaustin

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from wiki (referring to the new infiniti ex):



The EX is also one of the first production automobiles to feature "Scratch Shield," a special "self-healing" clearcoat paint. The paint self-repairs fine scratches, such as fingernail scratches under door handles, restoring the EX's surface close to the original state. The process, which takes anywhere from one day to one week (depending on the surrounding temperature and the depth of the scratch), is accomplished through the use of a special highly elastic resin. This resin is combined with a conventional clearcoat to increase the paint's flexibility and strength by raising the resin density.





ok folks, assuming the above works, how do you imagine polymer's and the like will affect the ability if the resin to self heal? could one still use something like z-5 pro on such a car without it inhibiting this resin action?
 
i guess that it is better to use something like a cleaner wax just to clean the CC.

Also Nissan has this type on it's X-TRAIL model but they said that this effect is taking no action after 3 years and i don't know why...

I guess it is better to clean the CC instead of removing any,but this is only a guess...
 
so are we looking at the end of zaino and the like? i know that next year even more of infiniti cars will have this new paint. i cannot believe other manufactures won't follow as swirls are a major complaint of customers.
 
mikeinaustin said:
so are we looking at the end of zaino and the like? i know that next year even more of infiniti cars will have this new paint. i cannot believe other manufactures won't follow as swirls are a major complaint of customers.



Why would a sealant go out of style? If anything abrasive polishes would.



I still don't think this will happen.
 
my concern is a polymer (or whatever) sealant would interfere with this process. i would think you would not want to put anything that hardens on the paint and perhaps anything that would even bond with the paint could inhibit this action.



abrasives would still be needed for scratches, etc, that are too great for this paint to heal itself.



and if this really works.........other car manufacturers will release their version.
 
Anything sitting on top of a clear coat won't affect it-especially Zaino. It sounds as if these new type of paints use some type of "elastic" polymers that eventually over a period of years harden.
 
You would think that during the "reflow" process that the paint would be more prone to new scratching. First time that I've heard of this.



Anyway, the proof is in the pudding. I'd like to see it.
 
Any polish is going to be flexible enough to allow the flow this is talking about. Bumper covers and even body panels flex all the time and I've never seen a sealant or wax shatter and fall off...
 
I think some waxes and sealants such as S100 have flex agents added as well. Not sure how effective they are or if they are more marketing than substance.
 
wannafbody said:
I think some waxes and sealants such as S100 have flex agents added as well. Not sure how effective they are or if they are more marketing than substance.



Z3 too, I think.
 
One of my customers has an EX35 (I usually just take care of their Excursion and 20' enclosed trailer) and the lack of spider swirls on the black paint was quite impressive. I would imagine it still needs some protection, not sure it can heal itself from heavy bird bombardment.
 
From PPG site:

"First, PPG is working on a self-healing clearcoat that actually repairs scratches on heat activation"

So does this mean we will still be able to charge over $400 for swirl removal just by using a hair dryer? lol man that would be nice.
 
Infiniti says not to buff these (and the new FX) But I have customers with pretty nasty scratches. Any ideas on removing them? I asked the infiniti rep and he looked lost.
 
I'm getting the same response. Talked with the service manager and a detailer at the Infiniti store in my area...I may as well have asked them about brain surgery. :D In fairness, any dealer's staff seems to equate "all things detailing" with "wax."



A buddy from another forum bought one of these and he's been asking around on the Infiniti sites. No one seems to know even though the questions are being asked more frequently. That PPG link offered more information than anything else I've found.
 
Weird, I worked on a dark grey ex and there were quite a few swirls for a new car. I knew about self healing paint but didn't know ex's had it. I treated it as normal and it came out great.
 
The first one we did had a small scratch on the hood. The rep from Infinti said something about putting water on it and letting it sit in the sun (wow). It didnt work, so we grabbed the rotary, and left some nice hazing behind
 
I think the process also takes a little bit of time. I doubt it's instantaneous. If so, you guys might be catching it at the "wrong" time or perhaps the owners just keep scratching their cars constantly.
 
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