inck stain , what is your go to product ?

yakky said:
Yeah, I understand you are apprehenive about it as no one wants a headliner to sag. I'm just not sure anyone is going to be able to present a method that can be proven anymore safe. It is ink afterall, you need something stronger to go after it.



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If the headliner is going to sag, why bother damaging it!



I said in the beginning - No Solvent, No Alcohol, No Water Base Solution need to touch the ink on headliner.



If you do you will regret!





Roger Koh

Leather Doctor®

Master Textile Cleaner IICRC#942
 
How would you remove it Roger Koh? No need to keep stuff in PM as this is valuable information to help out the community. I'm sure everyone will have some issue with their headliner. Me personally I don't know how to clean it. I would say remove the headliner and clean outside the car, but I can see disastrous results in some situations.
 
Candor said:
How would you remove it Roger Koh? No need to keep stuff in PM as this is valuable information to help out the community. I'm sure everyone will have some issue with their headliner. Me personally I don't know how to clean it. I would say remove the headliner and clean outside the car, but I can see disastrous results in some situations.



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Thank you for your interest.



I will post pictures of the procedural steps to safely remove the ink stains worry free!



No Solvent or Alcohol is involved.



Odorless, Non-hazardous, Non-toxic and Environmental “Green� without the V.O.C.





Roger Koh

Leather Doctor®

Master Textile Cleaner IICRC#942
 
Can't wait to see how it's done!

Roger knows his stuff: the guy is a true expert in his field and holds jungle of knowledge. I look forward to seeing how this pans out - no doubt we all have something to learn from a guy of his talents.
 
Roger . here are the pics of the ink pen in question, not sure which brand it is though. the inside says made in Spain if that helps LOL ! tried to get the best pics of the headliner stain that I could but the light was not very good after work today. it was very overcast when I got home from work. let me know if this helps any. thanks



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A note about ink on leather



Ink is not a cleaning job it is a repair job as most cleaning agents will not remove the ink.



Hairspray should not be used to attempt to clean ink off leather. Whilst in some circumstances it may work we have seem many where it has damaged the finish on the leather and caused very expensive repairs. Unfortunately there is no way if telling until you use it whether it will damage the finish or not so it is best avoided. Those that have had success with it is mainly down to the fact that you have got to the ink very quickly before it has had chance to penetrate the finish on the leather and so has removed very easily.



Ink is a dye and the longer it sits on the leather the further it will soak in and therefore the harder it will be to remove. It is also vital to identify the type of leather you have before attempting any ink removal process as what works on a finished leather will not work on an aniline style.



There is a 5 step process that should be followed for safe ink removal or repair.



Jope this helps
 
flatstick said:
Roger . here are the pics of the ink pen in question, not sure which brand it is though. the inside says made in Spain if that helps LOL ! tried to get the best pics of the headliner stain that I could but the light was not very good after work today. it was very overcast when I got home from work. let me know if this helps any. thanks





Yes! Good enough.





I will recreate the same size of the stain before removing it, may I know the length of the ink mark?





When did you first notice the stain?





It is true that the longer the ink ages, the more difficult it is to remove.





And black (from the above pictures) is tougher to remove than blue.





Roger Koh

Leather Doctor®
 
judyb said:
A note about ink on leather



Ink is not a cleaning job it is a repair job as most cleaning agents will not remove the ink.







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These pictures show Permanent Marker removal, the initial removal was just blue ballpoint ink stain you can see the cleaned spot.







#1: This ink is from Permanent Marker.

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#2: Complete deflocculated after solution application and horsehair agitation

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#3: Extraction simply with paper disposable rag – no high tech fabric necessary.

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#4: Can’t stop the excited customer cleaning up the piece for their upholstery repair work.



Well sold!



They need the kits for their own use and for retailing to their customer too.

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Roger Koh

Leather Doctor®
 
Roger Koh said:
Yes! Good enough.





I will recreate the same size of the stain before removing it, may I know the length of the ink mark?





When did you first notice the stain?





It is true that the longer the ink ages, the more difficult it is to remove.





And black (from the above pictures) is tougher to remove than blue.





Roger Koh

Leather Doctor®







Roger,



The stain measures 1/2 inch in length. I also looked at it and the color is lighter than how it came out on the paper in the pictures that I posted above. I saw the stain transfer happen and it has been around 7-10 days so far. nice demo on the leather ink stain you showed us.
 
flatstick said:
Roger,



The stain measures 1/2 inch in length. I also looked at it and the color is lighter than how it came out on the paper in the pictures that I posted above. I saw the stain transfer happen and it has been around 7-10 days so far. nice demo on the leather ink stain you showed us.



I dont understand why it matters how long the mark is..? A mark is a mark.. you're going to have to go through a process to remove it regardless of how long it is.. You might need to do longer marks in sections, but I still dont udnerstand what is with all these questions..
 
#1: Pictures of various ink stains types including Permanent Marker and Gel ink on Auto fabric.

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#2: Partial Removal to show the before and after

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What do you think?





Roger Koh

Leather Doctor®

Master Textile Cleaner IICRC#942
 
Roger Koh said:
#1: Pictures of various ink stains types including Permanent Marker and Gel ink on Auto fabric.

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#2: Partial Removal to show the before and after

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What do you think?





Roger Koh

Leather Doctor®

Master Textile Cleaner IICRC#942



So, what were your processes? :confused:
 
It’s a “no brainer 1-2-3 detailing system� for all foreign contamination problems including aged silicone wipes that turns yellow on dashboards and consoles.



Contamination includes hand perspiration on steering wheels be it plastic or leathers, dye-transfer from new blue jeans and grease-up leather stains.







First, use an aqueous pH 7.7 leather prep to apply direct onto the stains and let the prep does its work by penetrating, lubricating and suspending the various types of ink stains.



Leave it 10 to 30 minutes and as the ink is suspended lift it off with cotton swab.



Apply and lift until cotton swab shows clean.



Second step is to use a pH 3.8 leather cleaner and clean off the sticky residue.



Third step is to rinse off and paper rag extract with a pH 3.0 leather rinse until free of suds.





It’s a simple solution to your toughest interior detailing problems.





Roger Koh

Leather Doctor®

Master Textile Cleaner IICRC#942
 
Roger Koh said:
It’s a “no brainer 1-2-3 detailing system� for all foreign contamination problems including aged silicone wipes that turns yellow on dashboards and consoles.



Contamination includes hand perspiration on steering wheels be it plastic or leathers, dye-transfer from new blue jeans and grease-up leather stains.







First, use an aqueous pH 7.7 leather prep to apply direct onto the stains and let the prep does its work by penetrating, lubricating and suspending the various types of ink stains.



Leave it 10 to 30 minutes and as the ink is suspended lift it off with cotton swab.



Apply and lift until cotton swab shows clean.



Second step is to use a pH 3.8 leather cleaner and clean off the sticky residue.



Third step is to rinse off and paper rag extract with a pH 3.0 leather rinse until free of suds.





It’s a simple solution to your toughest interior detailing problems.





Roger Koh

Leather Doctor®

Master Textile Cleaner IICRC#942



Are there specific products that you are making reference to/recommend? Are you being intentionally nebulous?
 
^ of course he has to be.



Roger sells quality goods that back-up his quality knowledge, but because he's not a paying sponsor, can not list his supplies directly nor link them. That would be blatant advertising and solicitation. If anything- be thankful he's here sharing wisdom, and contact him out of public light :)
 
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