In need of some guidance

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anthony914

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I'm in need of some guidance, I have read a lot of things on the forum but am still kinda confused. I have been detailing cars for a while, but nothing major with a PC or and steam cleaning. And now that I'm getting bored, I guess I could say bored, I am thinking about purchasing a PC by tonight or tomorrow morning. What i want to be able to do is to remove light swirling and some moderate scratches, I will get pictures in a few, also i want to be able to have a product for the carpets that is fairly easy to use. Lastly i need some better MF's for removing polishes after using hte PC and, towels that you recommend for the interior, and lastly more applicators.





So what I'm asking for is if some of you guys could put together a plan for light swril removal, Just waxing/polishing a car, and i guess heavy swirl removal with the products you recommend. I'm am trying to stay on a budget as Im only 16 so try and keep the products to some that arn't 11ty billion dollars





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Here are some options for you. I gave you some OTC options to keep it cheap and accessible.



Buffer:

PC or UDM



Polish:

Prima Swirl (made for the PC); Menzerna SIP; Poorboys SSR 2.5



Fine Polish:

Prima Finish (again, made for PC); Menzerna 106FF, Poorboys SSR 1



MF to remove Polish:

Viking Polish towel (Kmart sells them)



MF for all purpose:

Costco cheap yellow MFs



Carpet:

Some people here have used diluted Woolite or APC to "great success". I use professional carpet cleaning solution with an extractor so I don't know how good either works but someone will chime in.
 
kapinnn said:
Here are some options for you. I gave you some OTC options to keep it cheap and accessible.



Buffer:

PC or UDM



Polish:

Prima Swirl (made for the PC); Menzerna SIP; Poorboys SSR 2.5



Fine Polish:

Prima Finish (again, made for PC); Menzerna 106FF, Poorboys SSR 1



MF to remove Polish:

Viking Polish towel (Kmart sells them)



MF for all purpose:

Costco cheap yellow MFs



Carpet:

Some people here have used diluted Woolite or APC to "great success". I use professional carpet cleaning solution with an extractor so I don't know how good either works but someone will chime in.
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Thanks, i already have about 20 all purpose MF's from shucks, and i think ill get soem turtle wax Mf's for removing polish, as one came with my ICE wax and its is really nice.



and than wahts a good wax/glaze to top every thing it with?



FORGOT to add what pad do i use with the polishes you mentioned and i would also like to get just one polish to use with an orange pad for some more difficult swirls
 
Any of the polishes I listed under "Polishes" should work with a LC Orange or Edge Green or Yellow. The fine polishes should be used with LC White or Edge Blue



I really don't need to use anything thicker than SIP or PB 2.5 or Prima Swirl. If I find that I need something more abbrasive I go with wool on a rotary with Presta Polishes. You can always upgrade to a yellow LC pad or black Edge pad with those same polishes. Just remember that the PC or UDM have their limitations.



A glaze is usually applied after fine polishing and then topped with a wax or sealant. A glaze by itself will disappear in days. That being said, I use Prima Amigo, CG EZ Creme Glaze, or Product X after I . Prod X is almost impossible to find, the other two can be found online. Also remember that not all glazes can be topped with a sealant as it might streak. Glazes are more generally compatible with waxes.



Wax to top it all depends on how much you want to spend. for $15 bucks you can get S100 or PB Natty (White, Blue or Red) and have great results. You can step into the $30-50 range and get CG 5050, CG Pete's 53, P21S. For $70something range you can get Pinnacle Souveran (great looks, little protection). Anything above that you will be stepping into Zymol/Swissvax territory and I do not have much experience with those. I use Victoria Concours Red Wax a lot. $32 for 3oz. ouch!



If you are looking for protection you might look into a sealant instead of a wax. Most sealants will finish nicely (not as much as a wax) but with great protection. The only expection is the Collinite brand of waxes. They last quite a long time.
 
Quick question, im washing my all purpose MF's with liquid detergent, on the final rinse how much vinegar should i add, there is about 18 towels and 2 MF applicators.
 
I think ill be getting the following pads:

LC CCS pads:

orange

green

white x2 (or should i get two of somethign else if im going to be using the following chemicals)

black

blue



I thnk I'll use tthe poor boys products mentioned above along with klasse AIO and then is ther something i should use on top of that or is ther any other suggestions
 
If you are getting the combo deal from Danase I would get them in 5 inch and the following:



Yellow

Orange x2

White x2

Blue



On top of KAIO you can use any wax or sealant.
 
Go with Optimum Polish and Compound. I should have listed them above as well. they are better than the PB SSRs and less dust. I'd still pick Menzerna over them if price is not an issue.
 
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i thinks that what ill get then
 
Looks great. Since you are getting all that, throw in a four star UPP and a Collinite 845 or Nattys paste wax. Just some LSP in case you don't have one. Maybe interior stuff as well like leather cleaner and conditioner...



It seems like you are getting the good stuff. Now, practice! :D



Good luck
 
anthony914 said:
Whci backing palte for 5" pad should i use
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Something slightly smaller. Like a 4" backing plate. Ah, and take tdkeany's suggestions and go with the hyper compound.
 
anthony914 said:
Quick question, im washing my all purpose MF's with liquid detergent, on the final rinse how much vinegar should i add, there is about 18 towels and 2 MF applicators.
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Haven't been online since your original post...



IIRC DFTowel (resident textile expert) recommends about a tablespoon of vinegar per towel. I just fill the softener dispenser with it and run a full wash/rinse cycle with no detergent, this provides good extra rinsing.



Sounds like you're all set on your products. I haven't used 5" pads for a long time, but when I did I just used the Porter Cable backing plate made for 5" pads (pn 15000 IIRC). I'd call Danase and just ask Bob which plate he recommends.
 
Accumulator said:
Sounds like you're all set on your products. I haven't used 5" pads for a long time, but when I did I just used the Porter Cable backing plate made for 5" pads (pn 15000 IIRC). I'd call Danase and just ask Bob which plate he recommends.
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I'd stick to a 4" plate just for the safety issue. The 5" plate can be a bit dangerous. If only they had a 4.5" plate... :D
 
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