in a jam, please HELP

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hey guys, im doing a detail right now, it is a bkack 97 Infiniti I 30.



I have gone all the way up to a yellow lc ccs pad with optimum compound. this car is swirl city!



anyways, i cant remove very many swirls, ive been going at it 2 hours now and ive got the roof and hood done. well not done, just have gone over them, i have removed some swirls but many scratches remain. i cant feel them with my finger nail either.



does anyone have any advice.



im using only a few drops of polish on my primed pad. doing five passes before i wipe off polish.



do infinitis have hard clear like audis??



sorry cant post pics till tonight.



any advice would be greatly appreciated, i will be checking this after every panel.



Thanks guys!!



Jim
 
Unfortunately, Infinitis do have hard clear coats. If you pop the hood, there might be a sticker that reads, "hard clear coat." The optimum compound is not very abrasive so I would stick with the yellow pad and do slow passes until the polish is almost gone. Do you by chance have any Hi Temp extreme cut?



Greg
 
yea thats exactly how im doing it, ive done other cars before and have done very good work. I cant remove anything on this car....



ive seen those vids brandon but thanks again ,



greg i dont have any htec, its taking a LONG time for this polish to break down, how many minutes on average do you think it will take to break down this polish? im using four teardrops per 2X2 area with a yellow pad on speed 6...



thanks again guys, be back in a few....



Jim
 
Jim,



How long are you able to work the polish before it starts to dust?



I'm asking this because if you aren't using *enough* product, it will break down and disappear to fast for it to do anything. Use enough to give you a decent working time, and work it until it either disappears or starts to dusts, then stop.



If using a little more product, and working it in a little longer doesn't do any more than you are already doing, then you just need to step up to something more abrasive, that's all.



Don't worry, you are doing good. Every car and every paint job is different and requires just a little different process. It's the technique and knowing how to adjust that is important.
 
Jump up to a more abrasive polish/compound. If you have the hyper compound, give it a shot. I don't use the optimum polish for deeper defect removal because, as you have noted, they take a LONG time to break down.



Greg
 
Hey everyone, thanks alot for all the help!



Well i finished up the OC with the yellow lc ccs pad because that was my most aggressive combo. I pulled it out into the sun and noticed micromarring/holograming and not too much swirl removal. :cry:



i pulled it back in, and hit one door panel with OP and a white lc ccs pad. I pulled back into the sun again and it seemed to clean it up so i went over the whole car with that combo. pretty amazing what finishing polish can do. it still has lots of swirls but i think i cleaned up about 50% of it.



JDookie, i work the polish for about 2 horizontal passes and 2 vertical passes before it breaks down, doesnt really dust but gets pretty transparent.



besides OHC, what kind of polish would you recommend that is more aggressive than OC. Is OC comparable to SSR 2.5 in terms of cut??



Well i think i did a pretty good job overall, cut down on some of the swirls and put a little shine in it, the car hasnt been polished in 10 years!! And waxed twice in its whole life......



anyways heres a few pics, any pointers would be awesome!



I will be posting a click and brag as well, these are just a few pictures....



Before: couldnt capture the swirls as well as i wanted, but this thing is COVERED in swirls



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Afters: The pictures do the car more justice than it deserves, swirls are still there, just not as bad as before



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Sorry for the long post...



Jim
 
Jim,



First of all, I think it looks great. You made a HUGE improvement from how it was before.



I think you could use a little more product. If all you're getting is four total passes before it breaks down, I'd say you need more. I like to have enough to work about double that amount of time. You mentioned using four tear drops of product on the pad. Try using a full circle of product around the pad instead at first to get the pad loaded, and then back off just a little as you need to in order to keep working time consistent.



Looks great though!
 
Roger, it was the OC that did it along with the yellow lc ccs pad (5.25")



only thing i can think of is,



a) this is a more aggressive combo than i thought



b) not enough polish and part of the pad may have been dry.....



but there were def holograms



jim
 
Roger V said:
Would love to hear some insight from people on why the OP induced holograms.
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OP doesn't induce holograms, the technique/process does. There are lots of ways to do this like: using the wrong pad choice, dry buffing (not enough product on the pad and buffing beyone the point of polish break down), or even the exact opposite by using too much product and not allowing to to break down. It's all in the process and technique, and part of the learning curve. :xyxthumbs
 
yea Jdookie, Im pretty sure the hologramming was from not enough product (dry buffing).



cant wait to get good at OP/OC. I got really good at SSR 2.5 and SSR 1 but it dusted WAAAY too much, when i was done, the car was covered in dust!!



by the way, this is a question ive been meaning to ask, if i run the PC over dust while polishing will it cause marring?? This is why i switched polishes because of all the friggin dust from the SSR line, I love their polishes but cant stand the dust.



anyway to cut down on dusting from the SSR line??



Jim



PS Thanks for all the help dookie!!
 
I wouldn't think the dust would cause marring. I used to do it all the time with one of my favorite polishes, which happens to dust like mad too, 3M Perfect It II Rubbing Compound, and I had great results. The dust is just a hinderance, not really a finish issue.



Don't forget, you are working on a difficult job there, and being a dark color doesn't help either.



You are very welcome for the help, its no problem at all. I love it!!
 
Considering the car hadn't been polished in 10 years and you were using a PC, I think you made remarkable progress on that finish. Optimum polishes should withstand multiple slow passes without drying out, yet wipe off easily when you use the right amount. It just takes some practice to determine the amount needed.
 
Thanks Scott, I appreciate that!



When the polish is hard to wipe off, does that mean it has been worked too long and has dried out? There were some panels where the polish was really hard to wipe off.



Thanks again!



Jim
 
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