I ruined my "wet look" by topping it

Scottwax said:
Are those all after shots or is the first one a before shot? If all those are after shots, can you link the before shots?



Your car looks fine in the pics but I don't know what I am comparing it to. :confused:
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sorry scott, there are no before's to compare to. Just my "autopia" eye :D
 
late tonight i'm gonna AIO it and remove that gawd awful Paste Glaze.. then start re-applying the z2 Pro..



i don't think a "dawn" or "sunlight" or "palmolive" dishwashing detergent will suffice..
 
I just had a similar problem. My car had about 4 coats of Z5 then 2 of the new Z2 pro. A few days later I topped with Souveran and it streaked, smeared and just didn't come out right. I've topped Zaino with Souveran before, and used each individually dozens of times, but this was the first time over Z2 pro. Maybe something is different with the new formula? :confused:
 
Ds01C5 said:
Maybe something is different with the new formula? :confused:
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Something is definitely different. That's why the name changed rather than just an announcement of another evolution of Z2.

Sal has never endorsed topping with a carnuaba and I have never had much luck with topping Zaino and I tried many topper with the same frustration. I just lost the crispness I learned to expect.

As always, "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder". :D
 
Scottwax said:
:nixweiss I have found that differences apparent to the naked eye aren't always picked up well by the camera.



I take him at his word though.
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I agree Scott. Camera angles and lighting can play a huge effect on how the car comes out in a picture. Unless it's a before and after under the same conditions, then pictures really don't tell the story.:cool:
 
It must be something with the Zaino that doesn't work well with carnauba toppers. Souveran and Paste Glaz are two fantastic products. If you guys have had problems with both of them on top of Zaino, it must be the Zaino.
 
White95Max said:
It must be something with the Zaino that doesn't work well with carnauba toppers. Souveran and Paste Glaz are two fantastic products. If you guys have had problems with both of them on top of Zaino, it must be the Zaino.
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Agreed in a sense - not to say there's anything wrong with Zaino, just that it isn't designed to be topped with a carnauba. I never had problems topping previous versions, but the new Z2 pro definitely does not like carnauba.
 
White95Max said:
It must be something with the Zaino that doesn't work well with carnauba toppers. Souveran and Paste Glaz are two fantastic products. If you guys have had problems with both of them on top of Zaino, it must be the Zaino.
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Have you persoanally tried Z2Pro?



I've tried topping Pro it too. I've tried Pink, Natty's and s100 on a hood/roof. The nuba doesn't present any problems but it doesn't enhance the finish that much or at all. I would rather put the effort into another coat of Pro. I used to top the old Z2 all the time because I thought it was necessary. With Pro, I put the nuba toppers down. Thank God too, I'm getting old and one less step is cool these days.
 
I have topped Zaino with Souveran, Paste Glaz, and S100 and I can see VERY little difference...nothing appreciable to make me do it again. Zaino really is unique from any other sealant I've used.
 
Burlyq said:
Have you persoanally tried Z2Pro?



I've tried topping Pro it too. I've tried Pink, Natty's and s100 on a hood/roof. The nuba doesn't present any problems but it doesn't enhance the finish that much or at all. I would rather put the effort into another coat of Pro. I used to top the old Z2 all the time because I thought it was necessary. With Pro, I put the nuba toppers down. Thank God too, I'm getting old and one less step is cool these days.
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Easy now. You appear to be getting defensive about his comments which weren't negative about Zaino, but merely a comment that the new Z2 Pro may have compatibility issues with other products. Not uncommon with many products. You say you haven't had any issues, but others have. It was a valid statement and it wasn't stated as fact, but merely opinion from information brought forth in this post. Open discussion is good regarding these issues, but don't take them so personally.:nixweiss
 
94BlkStang said:
Easy now. You appear to be getting defensive about his comments which weren't negative about Zaino, but merely a comment that the new Z2 Pro may have compatibility issues with other products. Not uncommon with many products. You say you haven't had any issues, but others have. It was a valid statement and it wasn't stated as fact, but merely opinion from information brought forth in this post. Open discussion is good regarding these issues, but don't take them so personally.:nixweiss
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What word looks to be defensive? Am I allowed to make a comment too?:think:
 
Burlyq said:
Have you persoanally tried Z2Pro?



I've tried topping Pro it too. I've tried Pink, Natty's and s100 on a hood/roof. The nuba doesn't present any problems but it doesn't enhance the finish that much or at all. I would rather put the effort into another coat of Pro. I used to top the old Z2 all the time because I thought it was necessary. With Pro, I put the nuba toppers down. Thank God too, I'm getting old and one less step is cool these days.
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No I haven't. Does it matter one way or the other?
 
I would say that Z2PROâ„¢ is the most optically clear polymer Iâ€â„¢ve used to-date, it would be almost sacrilidge to mute its optics. Most Carnauba waxes cloud or discolour, especially if its density is increased (the so called layering) the only exception Iâ€â„¢ve found is Souveran, it maintains its clarity even after increasing its density with three consecutive applications.



Iâ€â„¢m looking forward to the Z prep product, it will be interesting to see how it compares to AIO, and I will say (at the risk of sounding too big a fan of Z products) that the Z-8 is like no other QD / booster wax Iâ€â„¢ve tried thus far

JonM
 
Burlyq said:
It surely doesn't matter to me. I was just asking because you said there is a problem with Zaino that I haven't been getting.
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I guess that's where I may have got the idea you were being defensive. If you weren't, then I apologize. I didn't take it that he said there was a "problem" with Zaino Z2 Pro, but maybe a possible compatibility issue. With the information given before your post of others experiencing the same thing, that would have been a logical conclusion to come to. We all know that Zaino is a different bird and isn't compatible with some products.:cool:
 
Asking for clarification is being defensive to you I guess? Still not getting it, all I did was get information and I didn't make any personal attacks, but since this is continuing I will get a tad critical if you don't mind. Nobody in this post said there was a compatibility problem when 95 said that, they said that Z2pro looks wet and deep by itself. They said adding a topper takes away from the already desired look. Meaning that Pro looks better then the topper, it's their opinion and they are entitled to it yes? Zaino leaves a clear distortion free surface and when you add a nuba you get distortion. Wax is not optically clear, so wax products have optics that are distorted. Some people prefer this distortion and some people prefer the distortion free finish.

The only person that said there was a problem never tried Zaino. He said it must be a problem with Zaino because the other product is "fantastic". Maybe YOU should go back and read the post. Now if you think me pointing out the obvious is yet being defensive again, perhaps you would be right, but you are the one who took me there because all I was trying to do is find out what 95 was talking about.

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I will probably try Zaino Products after I run out of my Blackfire and Pinnacle Stuff. I'm quite happy with what I have, however, curiousity has gotten the better part of me. It does seem so difficult though, with this topped by that and mixing this into that. :nixweiss I will say that I wouldn't waste my money purchasing a Zaino Clay bar though. I can't remember which member in here posted pictures, but they posted the pics of a Z bar and a Mothers bar side by side. They were still in the packaging. They were the SAME clay bay. :shocked SOOO, with that being said. I topped BF Sealant with Pinnacle Liqued Soverign and was just amazed. It turned out just beautiful on my maroon truck.
 
Burlyq said:
Asking for clarification is being defensive to you I guess? Still not getting it, all I did was get information and I didn't make any personal attacks, but since this is continuing I will get a tad critical if you don't mind. Nobody in this post said there was a compatibility problem when 95 said that, they said that Z2pro looks wet and deep by itself. They said adding a topper takes away from the already desired look. Meaning that Pro looks better then the topper, it's their opinion and they are entitled to it yes? Zaino leaves a clear distortion free surface and when you add a nuba you get distortion. Wax is not optically clear, so wax products have optics that are distorted. Some people prefer this distortion and some people prefer the distortion free finish.

The only person that said there was a problem never tried Zaino. He said it must be a problem with Zaino because the other product is "fantastic". Maybe YOU should go back and read the post. Now if you think me pointing out the obvious is yet being defensive again, perhaps you would be right, but you are the one who took me there because all I was trying to do is find out what 95 was talking about.

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Explain to me what part of this sentence you don't understand?



If you weren't, then I apologize.
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Thank you for your "tad critical" lecture and opinion. :chill:
 
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