I just ordered Vintage

ok another up date.

I just checked my CC statemtn online.It looks as though the money has been put back into my account, Its 2 am so I cannot call the bank for this question. I will in the morning but perhaps a late night surfer can help me out.



So I dont want to touch the money and then find out I have to give it back (notthat I assume Iwould)

So in having them post itback does that mean he was wrong and I have my money, or is it that they have given me the credit while they work it out.

I was told 4-6 weeks to get anythin done and its been like 2 or 3 days. It just happened today(I watch all my acounts like a hawk)



I dont know whats going on, I want to order again but I dont want to get screwed. I cannot afford a second jar of vintage.



ohh I also have not had time to fax in my e-maisl as proof.



I dont know whats going on, I dont want to wait till normal office hours just to find out.... arg.



well I guees I will find out in the morning at the latest















ohh and if its the real deal, I have found a very reputable canadian e-tailer, I know lots of people who have ordered from him, he is a great, upstanding guy who I have regular contact with.

He has told me with the system he has set up (a warehouse in the states and a place here, he gets it shipped to the states then bringsit up) he can get it quicker through customs (paraphrased). He said he had it in about a week(he has done it a few times with vintage he has said).. so im torn, do I order form him, who I would like to give business to, or do I go straigh from zymol and wait another moth... arg....

I guees I will have to call him and talk to him about it once I figure out whats going on with the money
 
Unless the guy is an authorized Zymol reseller, why take that chance again? At least if you ordered it directly, they will have your information on file for when you do your refills. After all, that is a big reason why you're buying this wax right? You're spending $2000 on wax. Look where the money you've saved prior with OCD has landed you. In the end, it'll cost you more in lost time (having to dispute this with your CC company), and for a pro detailer, lost revenue. Don't be a fool and make the same mistake twice.
 
BlackElantraGT said:
Unless the guy is an authorized Zymol reseller, why take that chance again? At least if you ordered it directly, they will have your information on file for when you do your refills. After all, that is a big reason why you're buying this wax right? You're spending $2000 on wax. Look where the money you've saved prior with OCD has landed you. In the end, it'll cost you more in lost time (having to dispute this with your CC company), and for a pro detailer, lost revenue. Don't be a fool and make the same mistake twice.
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thats verytrue, I was planning on odering from zymol, or even zymol canada to speed itup. I guees I was just thinking outloud. :idea



But yeah you are right. I will be ordering from zymol or there canadian reseller just to speed itup
 
The main thing is that you got your money back. I wouldn't doubt that the e-tailer is lurking here and had returned the money to avoid a confrontation with the cc company. Or the cc company had called to inform them that an investigation has begun. Either way, I don't think they can take away the money from you.



Thanks for the update and hope you get your Vintage soon!
 
calgarydetail said:
ok another up date.

I just checked my CC statemtn online.It looks as though the money has been put back into my account, Its 2 am so I cannot call the bank for this question. I will in the morning but perhaps a late night surfer can help me out.



So I dont want to touch the money and then find out I have to give it back (notthat I assume Iwould)

So in having them post itback does that mean he was wrong and I have my money, or is it that they have given me the credit while they work it out.

I was told 4-6 weeks to get anythin done and its been like 2 or 3 days. It just happened today(I watch all my acounts like a hawk)
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Thats usually how a CC dispute works. Your CC company will give you back the money while they investigate. At the end of their investigation if it turns out you deserved the money back then you get to keep that money, otherwise they reverse it and take it back.
 
calgarydetail said:
ohh and if its the real deal, I have found a very reputable canadian e-tailer, I know lots of people who have ordered from him, he is a great, upstanding guy who I have regular contact with.

He has told me with the system he has set up (a warehouse in the states and a place here, he gets it shipped to the states then bringsit up) he can get it quicker through customs (paraphrased). He said he had it in about a week(he has done it a few times with vintage he has said).. so im torn, do I order form him, who I would like to give business to, or do I go straigh from zymol and wait another moth... arg....

I guees I will have to call him and talk to him about it once I figure out whats going on with the money
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calgary, if this guy is an "official" Zymol reseller then no problemo. If not, and you trust him, why not buy it from Zymol (in your name, of course) and have it shipped to your guy's warehouse in the States and let him retrieve it from there? I assume there would be a charge for his service, but then there should be no problems with refills etc. because it would be registered to you, not him.
 
superstring said:
calgary, if this guy is an "official" Zymol reseller then no problemo. If not, and you trust him, why not buy it from Zymol (in your name, of course) and have it shipped to your guy's warehouse in the States and let him retrieve it from there? I assume there would be a charge for his service, but then there should be no problems with refills etc. because it would be registered to you, not him.
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thats a good Idea, i will have to give him a call at somepoint and see ifI can do that. :idea





i never even thought of that
 
Just remember that your ability to get the free refills depends on your purchasing the Vintage through an *authorized* Zymol reseller. I would call Zymol and get a list of *all* their authorized Canadian resellers, then research that list. If the reseller you've been talking about is on that list, you're good to go.



I still wouldn't take *any* chances. I'd order directly from Zymol or not at all.
 
SuperBee364 said:
Just remember that your ability to get the free refills depends on your purchasing the Vintage through an *authorized* Zymol reseller. I would call Zymol and get a list of *all* their authorized Canadian resellers, then research that list. If the reseller you've been talking about is on that list, you're good to go.



I still wouldn't take *any* chances. I'd order directly from Zymol or not at all.
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I have contacted then in the past and have found there canadian reseller, actully anyway wax that si not refieable will not be sold to you if you are in canada. I tried to order concours righ from zymol and was told I had to go through the candian seller. Which was fine, they said I could order vintage straight from then though... so I do know the canadian reseller... ohh well. I wont be ordering the wax till I do a little more with visa, such as send in the e-mails and such. plus im am swamped with midterms so it will be atleast a week before i order, this will give me some time to think f who i am going to order fomr,, but im leaning either zymol, o zdocn (canadian zymol) depending who can get it to be faster
 
calgarydetail said:
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I have contacted then in the past and have found there canadian reseller, actully anyway wax that si not refieable will not be sold to you if you are in canada. I tried to order concours righ from zymol and was told I had to go through the candian seller. Which was fine, they said I could order vintage straight from then though... so I do know the canadian reseller... ohh well. I wont be ordering the wax till I do a little more with visa, such as send in the e-mails and such. plus im am swamped with midterms so it will be atleast a week before i order, this will give me some time to think f who i am going to order fomr,, but im leaning either zymol, o zdocn (canadian zymol) depending who can get it to be faster
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Hey calgary, you're sounding a little sleep deprived, buddy! Or maybe it's me! :grinno: I don't quite follow. Are you saying if you buy Vintage from the Canadian "reseller", you can't get it refilled??!



Something else occurred to me: what happens when it does come to refill time? Do you have to go through the same BS about having to send it through an intermediary or else pay ~$300 in UPS brokerage?.......I guess that's a way down the road, though! ;)
 
[quote name='calgarydetail']ok another up date.

I just checked my CC statemtn online.It looks as though the money has been put back into my account, Its 2 am so I cannot call the bank for this question. I will in the morning but perhaps a late night surfer can help me out.



Mike this is sounding great. You know what...I'll bet that suckr didn't send sh(ugar)t!!



I had thought of asking that, just in case you received it from OCD, whether Zymol would honor the refill policy. Supe and a couple of others hit it right on the head. Zymol (may) not honor the policy if they sense that the purchase was not legitimate.



Your best move would be to order direct; However the $300 shipping that Picus mentioned concerns me. I will tell you what I think. Do your best to find a way to import the Zymol without sacrificing the refill policy; That is the real value of purchasing vintage. Without that, then you may as well just buy Destiny, or even stay with Concours (even if there could be an appearance difference).



If there's no other way than purchasing it directly from Zymol, then try explaining to Diane the predicament that you're in with customs and see if something can be worked out that way.



At any rate, if all things pan out, then I'm breathing an early sigh of relief. I just don't get some 'types' that take your money, promise you the world, and then don't deliver!
 
The $300 wouldn't be shipping, it's because UPS would have to "broker" the package through customs, and they do that based on value. It's usually ~6%, which of $2000 is $300. That's ON top of duty/tax, so you would be looking at ~$600 in tax/brokerage/etc to bring it in. Ironically the shipping charge would be less than $25. Heh.



What I did was ship to a friend in NY state, he will ship to me via USPS (which I have learned can be tracked as you mentioned earlier). Done and done. USPS does not charge brokerage, an 9/10 times the packages get through with duty charges only, rarely they make you pay a broker to bring it in, but you can do that for under $50. UPS just gouges you on it. In fact there is a class action lawsuit against them about it.
 
Picus said:
The $300 wouldn't be shipping, it's because UPS would have to "broker" the package through customs, and they do that based on value. It's usually ~6%, which of $2000 is $300. That's ON top of duty/tax, so you would be looking at ~$600 in tax/brokerage/etc to bring it in. Ironically the shipping charge would be less than $25. Heh.



What I did was ship to a friend in NY state, he will ship to me via USPS (which I have learned can be tracked as you mentioned earlier). Done and done. USPS does not charge brokerage, an 9/10 times the packages get through with duty charges only, rarely they make you pay a broker to bring it in, but you can do that for under $50. UPS just gouges you on it. In fact there is a class action lawsuit against them about it.
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Excellent, glad it worked out for you.



If any of you Canucks ever need someone to provide this same service for you, look no further than Fairly Reliable SuperBee's Canadian Shipping Services. I'd be happy to take your money... er... I mean help you get the good stuff to Canada.



Seriously, though, if anyone up north does need help with this, let me know. I'd be happy to help.
 
superstring said:
Hey calgary, you're sounding a little sleep deprived, buddy! Or maybe it's me! :grinno: I don't quite follow. Are you saying if you buy Vintage from the Canadian "reseller", you can't get it refilled??!



Something else occurred to me: what happens when it does come to refill time? Do you have to go through the same BS about having to send it through an intermediary or else pay ~$300 in UPS brokerage?.......I guess that's a way down the road, though! ;)
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haha yeah sorry I was sleep deprived, I was pulling an all nighter for an exam.. I guees it hit me pretty hard...



ok so I am not sure but i tink they will still honour the refilsl even if I get it from ocd becasue its who you register it, but im only 99% sure. I guees it doset matter at this point



If i order from zdocn I know I still get the refills, it is 2226 +6% tax so its a little more but im sure its quicker then ordering from zymol.



ohh well like I said I wont be ordering it until Iam through midterms, Ihave way to much on my mind.



ohh well, its off to bed for me.. im pooped
 
SuperBee364 said:
Excellent, glad it worked out for you.



If any of you Canucks ever need someone to provide this same service for you, look no further than Fairly Reliable SuperBee's Canadian Shipping Services. I'd be happy to take your money... er... I mean help you get the good stuff to Canada.



Seriously, though, if anyone up north does need help with this, let me know. I'd be happy to help.
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thanks supperbee, you ar a good man sir :D
 
Picus said:
That's a kind offer SuperBee - it's a bit of a hassle on your end, but you'll be helping out any Canucks that take you up on it in a big way.
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But then they have to send him some of the vintage for his troubles. ;)
 
SuperBee364 said:
Excellent, glad it worked out for you.



If any of you Canucks ever need someone to provide this same service for you, look no further than Fairly Reliable SuperBee's Canadian Shipping Services. I'd be happy to take your money... er... I mean help you get the good stuff to Canada.



Seriously, though, if anyone up north does need help with this, let me know. I'd be happy to help.
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Excellent. :2thumbs:
 
well i called diane today, i talked to her about shipping options and stuff. I also asked if on the odd chance the other one comes, she said they would return one so im not screwed over.

I asked about waiting, she said that they would ship it out tom. or the next day, so this week it will be on its way.

So i am getting vintage, i ordered it straight from zymol.



ohh and on a side note, she just e-mailed me the recepit... she gave me 10% off. I am happy already. I guee I should habe just ordered from them in the first place, ohh wll im getting my vintage... finnaly
 
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