I just ordered Vintage

Yup you too Diesel. You are more cooperative though (Accumulator jess wants to give me a hard time!). You'll like it!
 
Yeah, sometimes I think Accumulator doesn't get the Vintage just to be stubborn and/or torment us mercilessly. Diesel, OTOH, is like putty in our han....er... I mean, much more open-minded about such things.... ;)
 
Ya...



Just tryin to think how all of this started for me. How did I ever get into the hole like this??? I used to hate zymol. I used to cringe when I would hear of their "$72 wax". I would say yeah, right, and then proceed with my next layer of meg's or mothers. Oh those were the days. Ok I remember now. I had a not so good stint with Zaino. I did badly with it, I took it off immediately, and went right back to my old megs. It was ok, but it made me thirst for more. I observed a lot, tried one or two other waxes, compared again, and then I said "why not try it since I hate it so much." You don't want to know how much I spent on wax alone b4 the Vintaaaaaaaghhhhe!



But.......the car really elevated beyond what I was expecting. I would do it over and over again! Learned quite a bit during the trial and error process too!
 
31 pages, and Calgary still hasn't gotten his Vintage yet. Sheesh, I coulda picked it up and personally flown it up to him myself by now. :(



Be on the lookout for any extremely shiny Customs cars up there, man. I'd also get on the phone and not put it down til I had a tracking number in my hand. :)
 
SuperBee364 said:
31 pages, and Calgary still hasn't gotten his Vintage yet. Sheesh, I coulda picked it up and personally flown it up to him myself by now. :(



Be on the lookout for any extremely shiny Customs cars up there, man. I'd also get on the phone and not put it down til I had a tracking number in my hand. :)
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haha yes but then you woud be stuck in customes waxing the other boxes in the warehouse :LOLOL
 
DieselMDX said:
calgary what did u think of polished blissed thread on the lotus





interesting him using a pad and no HD cleanse
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that was really intresting. Well the pad anyway. I can understand the no hd-cleasne, it seems more like a glaze then anything. I have seen a few people not sure it with great results but applying vintage with a pad. The car looked great, i just wonder if there is any real diffrence
 
I wish I had proof of this, but I'm just about positive that using any other than the recommended hand application technique will affect both the look and the durability. Here's why:



Alot of the wax in Vintage is suspended as large particles in the, for lack of a better term, "transportation mechanism" consisting of all the solvents needed to make carnauba usable as a vehicle wax. Normally, carnauba wouldn't melt from the temperature of your hands. But since it is under the effects of the solvents, it does, quite literally, melt in your hands. You can feel the stuff melt as you rub it around in your palms. At this point, the wax liquifies, and the rubbing action of your hands is the equivalent of shaking a jar of product; you are mixing the freshly melted carnauba into the "transportation mechanism" of the solvents. And it needs to be properly mixed prior to application for best results. I believe that using a pad to apply Vintage would result in areas where the wax, which is still in granular form, is simply smeared accross your clear coat, without having been properly mixed into the solvents. Obviously, that can't be good.



If you're going to spend that much money on a wax, why not use it the way the manufacturer recommends? Honestly, I think Zymol has the application method completely correct, and people are doing a dis-service to themselves and/or their customers when they don't follow the directions.
 
good points i am personally going to use my hands but i found that thread interesting more so for the fact he did NOT use HDcleanse on a silver type car.



I am waiting for Bliss's response to my questions as we speak
 
DieselMDX said:
good points i am personally going to use my hands but i found that thread interesting more so for the fact he did NOT use HDcleanse on a silver type car.



I am waiting for Bliss's response to my questions as we speak
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i found it interesting as well. I must admit the car still looks great thought... hmm this might be another experiment
 
DieselMDX said:
good points i am personally going to use my hands but i found that thread interesting more so for the fact he did NOT use HDcleanse on a silver type car.



I am waiting for Bliss's response to my questions as we speak
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Here in one post I'm blistering people for not following the directions, then in the next I'm admitting I'm not gonna follow them, either...



The last time I polished my car, the finish I obained was *not* improved in the slightest by HD-Cleanse. That, and also the fact that I just polished and did an IPA wipedown of the car, makes me believe that the two important reasons for using HD-Cleanse (which are to clean the paint of anything that might prevent the Vintage from adhering properly and also to fill in scratches and add more shine to your finish) are completely moot. If the finish looks perfect and is completely clean (and I can't imagine a cleaner finish than one that's just been polished followed by an IPA wipedown), I just don't see the need for a pre-wax treatment of *any* type.



Anyway, that's a long-winded way of saying that the next time I polish my car, I'm going to follow it with an IPA wipedown and skip the chore that is HD-Cleanse.
 
lbls1 said:
muscle car driver........me?!
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Nah, being my age I think of F-bodies as being Pony Cars. My Muscle Car quip was directed at SuperBee364, who drives the equivalent of the muscle cars I grew up with (my Mother drove a '69 Charger R/T w/440 and TrackPack options). Muscle cars are a bit bigger than your ride in my antiquated worldview.



Heh heh, you guys are helping me stay interested in the mothballed garage queens, I'll grant you that :D The only time I really think about them is when I hit up these threads. The price of the stuff won't seem so bad after all this talk...the ole "the longer you're exposed to something the more normal it seems" thing is kicking in :o



SuperBee364- That makes sense about the HD Cleanse....I simply cannot believe it's somehow all *that* special/mandatory...prep is prep and waxes are waxes :nixweiss
 
well its 12:30, still no vintage... i know a guy who ordered it a week before me and still has not recived it. If i have to wait anohter week I will go mad.



So im getting anxious. I have school at 6 soi have the day off. I havent left the house becasue im scared to miss the mail man, heck i dont even know if its comming today.

I dont want to go get lunch because im worried ill miss the mail man. This is getting weird... by i need a life.. or my wax
 
well it dosent look like today will be the day.

I went to grab lunch, on the way back I say the package truck in the community I went home, about 10 minutes later I see it at my neighbours house. Being me I went and sat on the front pourch, went right past my house and stopped a few down. I though he just didnt want to move for everyhouse, no biggy.. he was there for literly 10 minutes (felt like an hour) and drove away... so no vintage today
 
Accumulator said:
Nah, being my age I think of F-bodies as being Pony Cars. My Muscle Car quip was directed at SuperBee364, who drives the equivalent of the muscle cars I grew up with (my Mother drove a '69 Charger R/T w/440 and TrackPack options). Muscle cars are a bit bigger than your ride in my antiquated worldview.



Heh heh, you guys are helping me stay interested in the mothballed garage queens, I'll grant you that :D The only time I really think about them is when I hit up these threads. The price of the stuff won't seem so bad after all this talk...the ole "the longer you're exposed to something the more normal it seems" thing is kicking in :o



SuperBee364- That makes sense about the HD Cleanse....I simply cannot believe it's somehow all *that* special/mandatory...prep is prep and waxes are waxes :nixweiss
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Can't argue with that one. I figured later that you changed Supe's title. Although you're right, the Muscle Car term has been blurred so much in the last two decades that they seem to label almost anything american and with some go with that term.



Waxes are waxes huh? I see we still have quite a bit of *discussion* to go thru heh heh!!!!



Any day now hopefully Mike!
 
lbls1 said:
Waxes are waxes huh? I see we still have quite a bit of *discussion* to go thru heh heh!!!!



Any day now hopefully Mike!
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i see a long post comming up... wen lbls1 says hes going to have a discusion on wax you might as well get ready to read a novel :scared:



i hope it comes soon, i blame customs lol. I think its becasue our buck is on par, everyone is ordering from the states as its not as expensive asa it used to be..



i do however need everyones help.. ok everyone cross there fingers and do a little zymol dance... it should work
 
calgarydetail- I gotta run down to TN to check out a new beater truck, hopefullly you'll have your Vintage by the time I get back. Bet you're on the edge of your seat by now!



lbls1 said:
..I figured later that you changed Supe's title...
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:chuckle: Heh heh, I was feeling all smart-@$$ed when I did that one. These threads can do that :o And yeah, the old terms get blurred just as (proper) English gets, uhm...fuzzy and if we oldsters don't stand firm it'll all get out of hand ;)



Heh heh, yeah, that "wax is wax" was sorta poking you with a stick, huh :lol
 
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