I compared Zaino to Klasse

ryeh2o said:
I bought #20 this year for protection, as i can't get a hold of any Klasse. I would be happy to do a side by side test ON THE HOOD ONLY of a Klasse sample and some of my full bottles of Zaino i have sitting around, and report back my findings.

I'm not a vendor, or anyone that has any bias toward one product vs. another.
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#20 is a good product, but can't touch K or Z or durability.



There are two Canadian Vendors who sell Klasse. eShine is one of them. The other is Car care mart



I have used the latter because they can drop here for pickup with no shipping (Greater Vancouver). Chris (eShine) has very good prices, and for me, no PST, so it's almost a wash in both cases. Give either a try.
 
Burlyq



Just because someone is a vendor doesn't make them an expert. Before accusing someone or attacking them, you should read their posts rather than jumping to conclusions.



eshine is straight up and doesn't play games from what I have read. He simply saw a need in Canada to have distributors for products that are extremely difficult to get and filled that need after a bad experience and getting hosed for border duties etc.



He simply completed a test as soo many here do and reported his unbiased results.



I have found Zaino to attract dust a bit as well. It's not a big deal for me.



You'll find my posts very pro Zaino. Why? Simply because I like it a lot.



Am I a pro. No.

Am I am newbie. No.

Have I ever claimed to be anything else. No.



I think the same goes for Chris.
 
"Not both products on a single panel but Zaino on the Hood and Klasse on the fender. The hood was previously done in Klasse and did not experience the dust issues."



Without a side by side comparison your observations are meaningless. Sometimes I can go for 2 weeks with little dust and at other times dust settles on the car in one day. Has nothing to do with what product is on the car.
 
RIC said:
"Not both products on a single panel but Zaino on the Hood and Klasse on the fender. The hood was previously done in Klasse and did not experience the dust issues."



Without a side by side comparison your observations are meaningless. Sometimes I can go for 2 weeks with little dust and at other times dust settles on the car in one day. Has nothing to do with what product is on the car.
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The fender is side to side to the hood. Especially on my Mustang the fender tops are very large. Thee two products are just divided by a crease.



Here are two pics, Klasse on the left, Zaino on the Right. They are pretty side/side no?



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I don't think the tests are meaningless. Most of the tests conducted here a bit subjective anyway. The tests were side by side. They are side by side with a gap, instead of side by side with a piece of masking tape.



Maybe the dusting is more visible with Z? Without actually counting the dust specs per square inch, you cannot report subjectively anyway. He's just stating his observations; he is not denouncing Z in anyway. Some people get dusting, some don't. Some people say ZFX does not produce as good a shine as using Z1. There are all just opinions.



If you don't agree, state your reasons and debate, but just saying they are meaningless gets us no further than saying product A or B sucks.



Maybe the garage door is closer to the fender than the hood or vice versa. Maybe the window is closer to one of the other, etc. Without a clean air room and spraying the dust evenly from a controlled environment, these are the only kind of conclusions we can make anyway...subjective ones.
 
I added 2 pics to my previous post. I think my Pinnacle VS P21S VS Natty's VS #16 review will not be posted after this.
 
I have compared several products side by side for my own peace of mind. Any time I have tried side by side comparisons I have never noticed a difference as far as dust attraction with ANY wax or sealant.



"Maybe the garage door is closer to the fender than the hood or vice versa. Maybe the window is closer to one of the other, etc. Without a clean air room and spraying the dust evenly from a controlled environment, these are the only kind of conclusions we can make anyway...subjective ones."



That's my exact point...he is drawing subjective conclusions...so to me IMO it is meaningless.
 
eShine said:
I added 2 pics to my previous post. I think my Pinnacle VS P21S VS Natty's VS #16 review will not be posted after this.
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Don't be discouraged, Chris. Many of us would still like to see the reviews plus the pics. It's no different than Geekysteve's stuff. There are always people who are not going to like or agree with your methodology or descriptions. But many of us like and appreciate it.:bow
 
Actually the Car is 20 feet from the Garage Door. After applying a Carnauba Topper the dust collection stopped. The car in the same spot in the same garage has Klasse on the same hood previous to Zaino. No dust collection. The fender has over one foot of horizontal area right next to the Hood. If for some reason the dust slammed its brakes on when it saw the crease then the review is flawed. Anyway, these are not controlled scientific experiments. I regret this whole review. I did it for my own interest and later thought I would share my experience, In some way I thought people can benefit from it. I guess I was wrong. I do find it interesting that another person did a simular test and came to the same conclusions. Oh, and it was a divided hood...



http://www.deckowski.com/wax off/greatwaxoffintro.htm



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What I do understand is this. If other people also experienced the dust and everyone also agrees on my descriptions of both Klasse and Zaino, Whats the big deal!? I never realized how personal people get over car waxes! Its like the Ford vs Chevy debate! :argue
 
2wheelsx2 said:
Don't be discouraged, Chris. Many of us would still like to see the reviews plus the pics. It's no different than Geekysteve's stuff. There are always people who are not going to like or agree with your methodology or descriptions. But many of us like and appreciate it.:bow
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I will still post it! Bring it on! Heck, I should throw NuFinsh in there! Its the "Once a year wax"! I was actually holding the paste version of NuFinsh yesterday, Anyone try it as a topper?
 
I just don't believe the whole dust issue in regard to what product is used. I believe some other factor(s) comes into play as I was never able to duplicate the results and see any difference.
 
RIC said:
I just don't believe the whole dust issue in regard to what product is used. I believe some other factor(s) comes into play as I was never able to duplicate the results and see any difference.
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Ahh, I see. But why would only one product collect the dust? Both products were applied same day within 2 hours indoors.



Let me ask this. If anyone were to do this test again, how would you have done it different? What do you think made just the one product collect dust and not the other?
 
Eshine, that was the link I was looking for!



Dont get discouraged, experiments are appreciated here and your observations are well written.



Funny thing is it doesnt always work the same for different paint or colors or regions. I happen to agree with what you posted but some get different results that all. I found Wolfgand to last one wash but others are getting 90 days.. doesnt mean they are lying its just a variable I guess.



Thanks for posting, dont forgo any posts based on this thread... We love stuff like this.
 
eShine said:
Ok, so I went ahead and got the following,



-Zaino Z2

-Zaino ZFX

-Zaino Z6



I have been wanting to compare Zaino to Klasse side by side for some time now just for more knowledge on both products.



The vehicle was my White 96 Cobra. At first I was skeptical if white was a good color to choose because its usually hard to tell different products on white. I tried taking pics afterwards but its impossible to get good photos on white when comparing different products! Believe me, I tried!
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Lol, this is the funniest thread I ever seen, I'll be laughing for weeks. So now this test is two vehicles? Will we see a third that shows two bullet holes in the Zaino side and you saying that klasse repeled bullets on the other? You could learn a lesson from this link. Simple, honest, and it only addresses what he's selling and not saying untrue things about the #1 rated sealant by guru tests. Klasse and Zaino are awesome.

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/inf-klasse.html
 
Burlyq said:
Lol, this is the funniest thread I ever seen, I'll be laughing for weeks. So now this test is two vehicles? Will we see a third that shows two bullet holes in the Zaino side and you saying that klasse repeled bullets on the other?
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What are you talking about? Are you just spitting out random words now? Two vehicles? Please tell how you came to this?
 
eShine said:
Actually the Car is 20 feet from the Garage Door. After applying a Carnauba Topper the dust collection stopped. The car in the same spot in the same garage has Klasse on the same hood previous to Zaino. No dust collection. The fender has over one foot of horizontal area right next to the Hood. If for some reason the dust slammed its brakes on when it saw the crease then the review is flawed. Anyway, these are not controlled scientific experiments. I regret this whole review. I did it for my own interest and later thought I would share my experience, In some way I thought people can benefit from it. I guess I was wrong. I do find it interesting that another person did a simular test and came to the same conclusions. Oh, and it was a divided hood...



http://www.deckowski.com/wax off/greatwaxoffintro.htm



product%20shots%20440.jpg




What I do understand is this. If other people also experienced the dust and everyone also agrees on my descriptions of both Klasse and Zaino, Whats the big deal!? I never realized how personal people get over car waxes! Its like the Ford vs Chevy debate! :argue
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Is this the white cobra you started with, I must be going color blind sorry my bad. Funny, another non-biased review I'm sure, that you just happened to know about. Your selling way to hard lets just move on please.

:xyxthumbs
 
Burlyq said:
Is this the white cobra you started with, I must be going color blind sorry my bad. Your selling way to hard lets just move on please.
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You obviously DO NOT read entire threads. You likely screen through and pick only whats appealing to you. Did you possibly notice what was typed before that pic? Hey, what about that link, I bet ya didn't click it. You need to move on.



Hey BurlyQ I like your website,



http://www.burlyq.com/
 
Ahh, I see Burly edited his stupidity in his last quote. Ya I am sure that other site is my partner in crime. Its the world against BurlyQ. The entire world is a conspiracy! If their are any flaws in Burlys favorite product then its rigged. You are truly sad. If you have problems with all Zaino reviews then help us all and don't read them.
 
The Uncle said:
eShine, I hope you will just ignore Burlyg. Your comments are thoughful and your posts are a great read.
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I should know... you should never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Burly is obviously a pro.
 
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