I think we ALL agree, though, that regardless of what type of vehicle, we all benefit from the pictures and write-ups. I have said it before and I will say it again: detailing is a skill that requires practice and patience, and while much of it is learned though trial-and error and just plain experience, the information in this forum is invaluable in that process. I can hope to attain results like scottwax, accummulator, themighytimmer, superbee, th0001, and a host of other Autopian All-Stars, but I probably never will, simply because I don't have their abilities or experience, and tools. Doesn't mean I shouldn't TRY to emulate them; it's just frustrating to me (and I am sure to other novices) that I (we) cannot attain the same results. If there is one thing to be learned from this forum it's that some things are best left to the professionals. Like the game of golf (which I don't play), most of us will never golf like Tiger Woods. Doesn't mean we shouldn't play the game or that we cannot enjoy the game (and I know many people do). Even if I (we) improve a little in our car care and detailing from the information shared in this forum, it is because of both professionals and do-it-yourselfer's in this forum willing to take the time and effort to improve us all. Maybe this thread is straying from the original topic, but as stated, I am indebted in my passion to car detailing to the many contributors in this forum.