Hows Does He Do It ?

As you polish you should be looking at the imperfections to see how they're being removed, or if they arent. There are obviously some there that needed more attention.
 
D&D Auto Detail said:
As you polish you should be looking at the imperfections to see how they're being removed, or if they arent. There are obviously some there that needed more attention.
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The polish hides the paint and makes it look hazy, as it should, so how can you be looking at the imperfections? If that was the case, we wouldn't be wiping polish off after doing a section right? I've worked with Menzerna, Meguiar's and Optimum polishes and not one turns completely clear to allow you to see the paint while still being worked in
 
You can see the more serious imperfections as you polish, especially on the darker colors. If YOU cant, then try looking at the paint differently. Once you get the hang of it you'll find that it can help cut down on polishing time.
 
PD's technique is excellent. You don't have to wonder whether what he's doing is right. Now, if I were to do that with the Flex at 1100 rpm with 1Z High Gloss Polish on a White 6.5" CCS pad, the polish would dry up instantly. It wouldn't last 10% of this time.
 
D&D Auto Detail said:
You can see the more serious imperfections as you polish, especially on the darker colors. If YOU cant, then try looking at the paint differently. Once you get the hang of it you'll find that it can help cut down on polishing time.
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Listen, I get what YOU'RE saying, but if YOU can see a defect that's serious enough to see through a polish that's being worked in, there's no way you will remove that defect by going over it a few more times, considering it's that serious. Let's just agree to disagree here, because I've seen your work, it's great, you know what you're doing, but unless you sit in front of me demonstrating what you said above, I'm sticking to what I know, from experience as well



Paul has great technique btw, no doubt about that.
 
I'm going to go on a limb and say with what he is doing in the first video, there is no way he is removing serious defects. That looks to me more like burnishing, or light polishing at most. Considering he is using 3m extra fine compound...well, ya. My guess is at that point is is cleaing up light rotary holograms from a previous step, or correcting very light imperfections. In any event, it seems like the polish he is using is very clear (sort of like using 106ff or something), so he can probably see the areas he wants to hit multiple times.



Honestly, I don't see anything particularly exciting in the vid? That's pretty much how I thought everyone used a rotary. Maybe a little less swinging around, but pretty close, no?
 
lecchilo said:
He's not erratic but it's pointless imo... I could understand polishing the edges like that since you never really get the "meat" of the pad on there so you go over it more and more, but what you said and what I'm talking about now has to do with him being able to somehow see the paint at a micron level and knowing he needs to polish that certain area more... I just don't get it
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Yup, thats what I think he is doing, I tried it also and it seems that he is looking for swirls or scratches when he moves the pad to thin out the polish and then when he sees a defect he press the pad a little harder and more polish is applied in that area and he continue to polish it.



Dang, those 3M backplates are expensive ! ...time for eBay ...LoL :nixweiss
 
D&D Auto Detail said:
Hes using a 3M backing plate.
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man i need those backing plates. im going to get one and see if i can have it replicated



themightytimmah said:
I haven't heard it from him, but other sources have suggested White Mineral Oil. It's apparently what Menzerna uses, and its cheap and locally available.
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that figures, sines menzerna also makes wook polishes and mineral oil is very prevalent in the wood working industry
 
It sounds like his rpm is at a high speed. Do you guys also think that? At how many rpms do you think he's in?



Grabby
 
lecchilo said:
Listen, I get what YOU'RE saying, but if YOU can see a defect that's serious enough to see through a polish that's being worked in, there's no way you will remove that defect by going over it a few more times, considering it's that serious. Let's just agree to disagree here, because I've seen your work, it's great, you know what you're doing, but unless you sit in front of me demonstrating what you said above, I'm sticking to what I know, from experience as well



Paul has great technique btw, no doubt about that.
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Sounds good to me, just trying to offer some of my experiences. And thanks for the compliments.
 
advs1 said:
man i need those backing plates. im going to get one and see if i can have it replicated
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There is a company out there working on a knockoff of the 3M... I forget the name but a friend of mine has about 15 different backing plate designs by them, I'll try to find out. IIRC their price point was well under $20.
 
advs1 said:
man i need those backing plates. im going to get one and see if i can have it replicated
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themightytimmah said:
There is a company out there working on a knockoff of the 3M... I forget the name but a friend of mine has about 15 different backing plate designs by them, I'll try to find out. IIRC their price point was well under $20.
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Like Meguiar's Solo Soft Buff BP seen below ($20-$25)?



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Picus said:
Honestly, I don't see anything particularly exciting in the vid? That's pretty much how I thought everyone used a rotary. Maybe a little less swinging around, but pretty close, no?
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I can pretty much effortlessly one hand my Dewalt on horizontal surfaces. I used to marvel at how when Mike Phillips of Meguiars used a rotary, it was almost like it was riding on ball bearings. All it takes is practice to do the same. :)
 
How is the Meg's BP a better design than say a curved BP? I've heard it's lop sided if you turn it sideways.
 
EdLancer said:
Dang, you have a sharp eye !



I guess youth has its advantages ...LoL



3m compounds cost as much here in Canada as in the UK, around $46-$56us for a bottle ! :furious:
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It cost me $72 with tax for a bottle of 3M Ultrafina SE last week in Montreal :angry
 
It's actually called the burnishing process. I have been using this technique for atleast 10 years myself. You have to be highly skilled to do this process and need to be a rotary expert. It has nothing to do with lubrication, but rather a 100% clean and clear paint. It already has to be defect free before the process. I can actually do it with a dry pad. You need to really know paint extremely well and will not work on every paint.
 
themightytimmah said:
There is a company out there working on a knockoff of the 3M... I forget the name but a friend of mine has about 15 different backing plate designs by them, I'll try to find out. IIRC their price point was well under $20.
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i would buy you a beer if you get me that link!!
 
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