How to remove shoe wax

Lowejackson

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Last week I bought some cheap shoe polish, I know I should have bought Kiwi but they had none in stock.



After hours of trying to get a decent shine, I have given up and in anticipation of getting some Kiwi this weekend I need to remove quite a few layers of cheap wax. Any suggestions?
 
The old-time shine guys who used to spit-shine my dress shoes (before the place went out of business...sigh...a dying industry...) used a pretty potent smelling solvent and told me to just use lighter fluid. I was always :eek: :sosad that it'd damage the leather, but it never did, even after many years of very frequent shines (my dress shoes are 20 years old and will last another 20 easily). Whenever I'd ask about the potential for damage they'd say how none of their customers ever had a problem, and I knew some guys my father's age who patronized that shop for decades.



Now that I'm doing it myself I rarely strip them down like that, but when I do I use something like 3M Adhesive Remover. I *am* very careful to *not* soak the leather; I use just enough solvent to remove the excess polish, not enough to get it into the grain of the leather. You might want to try leather cleaner or some interior cleaner or something else on the mild side first. And needless to say, you don't want to overdo something like this..
 
My grandfather sold shoes for decades before he was asked to join the ranks of his union as a labor organizer. Proper shoe attire, fitting and maintaining was paramount in my family!



I have heard of the lighter fluid tip too.



But regarding your question, I like to use a dedicated leather cleaner first. I do a quick wipe down with a damp towel to remove loose dirt. Then I like to use Coach leather cleaner (the same folks who make women's hand bags and leather goods). You can use a quality car care product with equal results. I allow to dry real well. To wax, I lightly moisten a few cotton balls with water and apply the polish. I let sit for a minute or so and then buff off with a horse hair brush. I reapply a light coat and then flick some water on it and buff off. I flick a little more water on it and continue buffing. This brings out the luster and shine. I dress the heels with Kiwi dressing.



I would basically treat the cleaning of your leather shoes like the interior of your car.



I could bore you to death with shoe stories regarding my grandfather. He sold to local boxers and would get free tickets and take my dad as a kid to the old school boxing matches in the 40's in Newark, NJ. He sold shoes to merchant marines often times swapping goods with them for the shoes since they didn't have the money. One guy gave my grandfather a genuine star saphire he got in his travels and my grandfather had a ring made out of it which I wear to this day. I wear on nice occassions since it was apraised rather high. Every new pair of shoes as a kid required my grandfather's inspection. I have fond, vivd memories of it. I'll never forget the proud look and joy he got when he fitted me for my Bar Mitzvah shoes :p



I love going to NY Penn Station or Newark Penn station and getting my shoes done there by the real professionals! When I worked in NY City, for $3 I would get a shine by the same guy in an open storefront on the corner of 5th Avenue and 23rd Street. It was a ritual for me.



Accumulator, ever heard of Church's? The best leather shoes IMHO. When they closed their store on madison Avenue, my friends and I aksed if we could buy the winged back chairs customers used to try on the shoes! I love those followed by Aldens, Allen Edmonds, Bally and Cole Haan.



Sorry for the rambling, it's things like this that I appreciate :D Nothing beats a good pair of men's shoes. It makes the man - or at least that's how I was raised. This, along with a Mont Blanc pen and a Rolex :xyxthumbs
 
Thanks a lot guys. Church shoes are still my favourite, my last pair lasted 20 years and I still feel cheated on how short lived they were.



Strangely, I get more comments on my shiny shoes than I do on my car - maybe I need to work more on the paint but that is another story.



I cannot remember who said a gentleman has clean shoes, a cad does not.



It is an interesting reference to Unions, there are many stories (in the UK) about Union officials needing clean shoes, I guess it was a useful way of distinguishing themselves from their peers.
 
A little off topic regarding the original question, but... I have a pair of black Birkenstock shoes that will not hold a shine. Based on some advice I got a few years ago from a person on this forum, I mail ordered some aerosol "clear coat" product for leather. I sprayed the shoes with a generous coating of this and let them dry. They looked good for about 5 minutes of wearing, then the clear coat started to crack all over and they looked awful. No mild cleaner would take this stuff off, so I figured I didn't have anything to loose by trying something aggressive. I ended up using acetone on them to remove the clear coat. This worked great, but I had to use quite a bit to remove everything, even to the point where they were wet with acetone. I ended up with a pair of very clean, dried-out black leather shoes. The acetone took off everything that I had ever used on them, but didn't seem to harm the leather. After a coat of leather conditioner and shoe polish, they were back to their original non-shine-holding selves.
 
I used plenty of show polish removers to start with a fresh surface for spit shining.



For new boots I would leave on shaving cream overnight and then take a 3M Scotch brite pad (green general purpose) and scuff up the leather. I would then apply Kiwi leather dye (Honor Guard), then I would lay down a thick coat of Kiwi black polish and lit it on fire. Then I would start the process of adding layer upon micro layer of Kiwi black polish to get the mirrored look. Then dress the edges with Kiwi edge dressing (Honor guard, comes in glass jars.)



Acteone/nail polish remover and rubbing alcohol work too. I prefer Acetone if I had my choice between the two.



Here are my boots! I found the picture after digging through my archives, lol.
 

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Jason- Heh heh, I figured I'd see you on this thread :D



Spilchy- I can't adequately express how much I miss having my shoes properly done (by others ;) ). It was something I had done every friday after leaving the University, sorta a reward for having done another week's teaching.



Spilchy and Lowejackson- I've never tried Church's...went with J&M back when they had more offerings in narrow widths and these days I'm wearing mostly Allend Edmonds. I'm sorta tough to fit and only certain lasts work for me. As long as I keep getting them resoled etc. early enough, I should be pretty well set for life, except for when a real "oops" happens to the patent leather ones. Reminds me, I need to start a new thread about those lest I jack this one...
 
Haha, thanks Accumulator. Shoes are my third hobby, well keeping them clean anyway. I mostly wear Reebok G-unit casual sneakers (got them in 3 colors of the same style to coordinate with what color t-shirt i wear, and I always go with the basic not too baggy not too tight jeans.)



I have a pair of Kenneth Cole Reaction shoes I bought for wearing with khaki's and button up shirts though. I think I'm not old enough for these Church's, Allend Edmonds, and other fine shoe makers. Also goes with kahkis on rainy days are my wateproof Danner Acadia black boots. Comfortable, durable, and waterproof (Gore-tex.)



Which brings me to my final topic, patent leather. Haha you brought it up Accumulator, I got those patent leather shiny as heck service shoes, hmm, 5 pairs to be exact. Once they really go oops, they can't be saved, but light scuffs and scratches if still in the leather can be saved using Brasso and lots of rubbing on that one spot. As you can see I just go ahead and buy a new pair, at $35 a pair, I think I can do that (have two special pairs that cost me $70 each because they are lighter and more comfortable.)
 
When I asked the guys at the shoe shop what to use, they recommended AFTA cleaner/degreaser. At one point I compared the MSDS to 3M Adhesive Remover and they're virtually identical. It works pretty well to clean everything up, but I've not yet tried to strip down a pair of shoes... I should give it a shot... I do have a can of Acetone I could use...



I really need a proper breathing apparatus... Like a paint booth mask...
 
Jason- Sounds like you have much wider feet than I do. You guys with C/D/E widths have all the luck. Not much available in B width :(



JasonC8301 said:
Which brings me to my final topic, patent leather. Haha you brought it up Accumulator, I got those patent leather shiny as heck service shoes, hmm, 5 pairs to be exact. Once they really go oops, they can't be saved, but light scuffs and scratches if still in the leather can be saved using Brasso and lots of rubbing on that one spot...



Yeah, I figured you'd have some patents ;) I wouldn't have thought of Brasso! Good tip.
 
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