How much buffing is too much buffing?

Meh, I'd think that there wouldn't really be any dirt left, I usually make multiple passes with the mitt over the panel. I don't get any marring that looks like it's from drying when I use ONR either, and if anything were to leave dirt on the paint before drying it would be that.



TBH, I've givin up on blotting paint dry, just takes too much time and by the time you are done with half of the car, the water is starting to spot on the other half. I've found that it is best to just *lightly* wipe it with a WW, letting the weight of the towel do the work.



Edit: I don't find the CD test to be accurate either, I just wiped towels over it under heavy pressure that I *know* would marr any paint, and I saw no marring at all on the CD.
 
Bigpoppa3346- That just goes to show how experiences differ :D Hey, you can ONR wash without marring and I sure can't do that :hairpull



Yeah, blotting is just *such* a PIA! I simply don't end up doing it..(yeah, right...like I'm gonna blot the Yukon XL :grinno: ).



Ineresting that your paint is more delicate than the CDs you've tested on, it went the other way for me :think: At least you're aware of it so you won't get lulled into any false sense of security :xyxthumbs
 
Blot drying adds quite a bit more time, but I think of it as just another thing to stack the odds in my favour I guess. Blot drying bigger vehicles can be a pain. Thankfully the truck has some fresh Collonite so there isn't much to blot :).
 
For you guys that like to blot or hate to blot because it takes too long should check out the Danase Extremely Large Water Devourer:



Extremely Large Water Devourer



At 26" x 48" this is the MF to blot with. I did a Chrysler mini van with a dead LSP so the sheet rinse did very little. The ELWD sucked up that water w/o breaking a sweat. This thing is as large as our big bath towels, but I'm not showing them to the wife ;) .



Two concerns I have read people say about this towel is it would get heavy/be difficult to wring out and it would be easy to touch the ground with it. On the mini van it did not become too heavy and I didn't even have to wring it out. As far as it touching the ground I guess that's a legit concern, but I haven't had that problem yet.
 
I detail for family, friends and the occasional referal. I agree with the OP that what's the point of 100% correction if the customer isn't going to maintain it and taking it to the "auto spa" ain't maintaining! If you do the same heavy-medium correction, over time the clear will fail - like others mentioned, depending on the paint and conditions. In those cases,IMHO - it would be better to either use fillers/glazes or get the car on a regular maintenance that you do, if the owner doesn't want to wash it correctly. On my cars, burgandy 08 Accord and dark blue metal-flake 07Honda van (almost as bad as black) I just use a little FFII on a white LC pad (PC applied) if I need to polish out an occasional waterspot or marring from that damn cat we have.
 
Eliot Ness- I wonder if that huge Water Devourer would make a difference for me... Blotting with *anything* simply gets to me, by the time I get to that stage of the wash I've about had it.



How soft is it? I ask as I'm currently only using the softest WWs available, and retiring those pretty early as soon as they feel less-than-wonderful.
 
Accumulator said:
Eliot Ness- I wonder if that huge Water Devourer would make a difference for me... Blotting with *anything* simply gets to me, by the time I get to that stage of the wash I've about had it.......
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I'd imagine with your air wand and LSP's in pretty good condition it wouldn't be a big plus for you.
Accumulator said:
......How soft is it? I ask as I'm currently only using the softest WWs available, and retiring those pretty early as soon as they feel less-than-wonderful.
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They are pretty nice, basically they are the Danase Phat MF's which are pretty soft, on a much larger scale. I know the ultra soft WW's you're using and they are also my favorite WW's...... I don't use any other WW on any car that matters.



Years ago when MF's first came out I could never find an extra big one that I liked. Bob finally came out with the ELWD after some of us asked him if it was possible to make the WD larger. I don't use them a lot, but when I do it's something I'm glad I have around. A local Autopian (EisenHulk) who also loves the ultra soft WW's promptly placed an order for an ELWD after he saw/felt mine.
 
Accumulator - I got some nice plush MF's from Chemical Guys recently - they replaced all my other drying towels. I tried WW towels and I'm not that thrilled with them.
 
That water devourer (sp?) looks plush enough to just wipe against the paint and not have to worry about marring. I don't see the point of blotting dry with it if wiping won't add any marring.
 
Bigpoppa3346 said:
That water devourer (sp?) looks plush enough to just wipe against the paint and not have to worry about marring. I don't see the point of blotting dry with it if wiping won't add any marring.
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It's just sort of a personal preference thing. I just noticed that the size of the ELWD made it almost perfect for someone who likes to blot dry since the towel covers so much area.



For someone who is washing outside they might be concerned with a contaminant blowing onto the paint and inducing some marring if they wipe instead of blot dry. I personally don't blot dry very often, but when I do the ELWD on a large vehicle like a mini van makes the task a lot quicker.
 
I do over 95% of washing and drying in a garage, so it never really occured to me that if you were washing outside, wiping could/would definitely marr the paint if dust or something got on it.



I know during our pollen season, by the time you flood the water off the car (if one is washing outside), there is enough pollen that I wouldn't feel comfortable wiping off. In that case, you are right, blotting would *definitely* be a better solution than wiping.
 
Pollen season - got to love that time of year, every year it's something new. Last time I coughed for 6 weeks. A wash job lasts a few hours before it's wrapped up in the yellow haze.
 
It's wierd, I don't remember noticing that much pollen in 2006 or 2007, but this year, damn, I couldn't pull a finished detail job outside to inspect it because the pollen would be all over it in 5 minutes.



This thread has gone a bit OT.
 
JuneBug said:
Accumulator - I got some nice plush MF's from Chemical Guys recently - they replaced all my other drying towels. I tried WW towels and I'm not that thrilled with them.
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Noting that I've not tried those CG towels....I go the other way; plush MFs always leave too much water behind and I'm completely satisfied with my current (extra soft) WWs. There's a *big* range of differences in WWs, so I can understand if you've found something you like better than the WWs you tried.
 
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