How many months is AIO/SG good for?

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shortspark

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I have a new silver Honda purchased in May. Right off the bat I did the Klasse AIO/SG and then again in November. I am wondering how long those of you who use these products go before the next cleaning. I figure six months since SG is very durable and my vehicle is garage kept. Here in Texas we have no winters to speak of and so no salt or sand ever hits the surface. And when it does rain I'm seldom out in it. However, the sun can be brutal!



After every wash (and other times as well) I also use a good OD like Menzerna HGAS which serves as a very durable protectant on its own. I also make a home brew QD mixing SG and distilled water. Even after six months, the thing looks great! Can I go a year? Is six months too long (water still sheets fairly well)? What do you all think?
 
maybe 6 months tops....i dont think many people on here would leave a car that long, id say 3 months would be a better interval, or better still as often as you can
 
A bit simmilar question. How long the above combo would last on alloy wheels? (it is a pain to re-apply completely, since one has to take the wheels off...)



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Nick
 
Wheels maybe every 2 months or sooner because of the heat from braking.



You can probably get 4-6 months of protection with AIO/SG in the Dallas area but if you want the best look and maximum protection, apply another layer of SG every couple of months. It isn't a good idea to let any wax or sealant get to the end of its protective ability before reapplying.
 
Scottwax said:
Wheels maybe every 2 months or sooner because of the heat from braking.



You can probably get 4-6 months of protection with AIO/SG in the Dallas area but if you want the best look and maximum protection, apply another layer of SG every couple of months. It isn't a good idea to let any wax or sealant get to the end of its protective ability before reapplying.
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Thanks Scottwax (and others). That makes good sense and will be my policy from now on.
 
It's all gonna depend on what your vehicle is subjected to, but my experience with it follow:



Wheels: KSG X 4-5 applied to our DDs' summer wheels during the winter (while I have the snows on) will last almost until the next winter. Close enough that I don't have to redo them. That's washing with carwash solution. This holds true on both the minivan and the A8.



Paintwork: I applied KSG X 6 to the MPV over the course of about six weeks. Then I just washed with Griot's Car Wash and spot-clayed (*very* gently) as needed. Note that I wash very gently to say the least. I did not use a QD or refresh the KSG. The KSG lasted well over a year, including a tough Ohio winter. It was still beading well after 12 months except for where it was starting to sheet on the hatch and the frequently-clayed areas. I finally I decided to redo it at 16 months even though most of the vehicle was still beading nicely. At that time you could still feel the KSG on the surface (everywhere) and it still looked pretty good. YMMV of course, and I credit my frequent and gentle wash regimen almost as much as the KSG. But nothing else I've tried has ever lasted like that. It was nice to just wash it for months on end.
 
Did a study of this on the hood of my truck. Cleaned it all up, taped off various areas and applied SG, up to 8 coats in some areas.



In a few months (3-5) it certainly wasn't beading water or giving any indications of being present.



In one year, the paint was all faded and chalky, and would rub off on your finger.



Any doubts about how bad things looked were fully eliminated when I peeled off the electrical tape. The paint under the tape was nice and shiny.



Ymmv, but I wouldn't say it's terribly long lived.
 
As with so many things, sounds like experiences can vary. No way I can reconcile my experiences with those like FoxTrappers, so I guess people have to just try stuff for themselves and see how it goes.



Even my *wheels* still bead after many months...maybe it's the shampoo; Griot's Car Wash simply doesn't seem to have any effect on KSG.



Heh heh, if KSG didn't last so long for me I probably wouldn't use it. I've never been crazy about the look, but then again the protection is pretty incredible (hardly ever get etching from bird bombs or bugs, let alone acid rain).
 
I had to chime in & give another first hand account of AIO/SG. A few years back, when I still lived up in the Boston area, the AIO/SG x6 combo used to last me about 3 months during the harsh winters up there before the protection/optics started to degrade a bit. During the beautiful summers/spring/fall seasons the Klasse twins seemed to last as Scottwax said......about 4-6 months. then I became an "Autopian" & discovered the wonders of the Sonus Acrylic Spritz & Sonus Acrylic Glanz. The Glanz is the secret weapon!! It really aided in extending the longevity of the SG. If I remember correctly, I used to get a sheet-bead.........sheet-bead kinda thing from the SG. At times it would sheet water..........other times it would bead. Has this happened to anyone else???? Maybe it was a byproduct of living 13 miles south of the big city. Maybe it had something to do with living right near the ocean. (????) All in all, the Klasse twins are a terrific product combo to use. Just try & get your hands on some of the Sonus Acrylic Glanz! That's the ticket, baby!!
 
I have been using the Klasse twins on my wife's white 2002 CRV-EX for 4 years. I usually do a clay, AIO x 1, and SG x 2 (this last time I waited a week and did the 3rd layer of SG). This car is garaged at her office and at home and is usually washed about once every 10 days and get a QuickShine QD after every wash.



With the minimal UV exposure this regimen EASILY holds up for 12 months and I went 16 months once. I am amazed at how well her car looks after I wash it when it has been 9 months or more.....optically it looks as good as the day I apply the Twins. She often comments on how the rain just sheets off her car and it hardly gets dirty and how slick the paint is (I am sure the QS is a factor on this and now I am starting to use #425 which is really slick). For a great looking, durable combo with minimal maintenance (which is the perfect combo for the wife) it is very difficult to do better than the Klasse Twins.
 
Just to follow up on my previous post.......I forgot to say that my car at the time was a 2000 Honda Accord EX V6. The color was Dark Emerald Pearl. It was my daily driver that was kept ungaraged.
 
I have a white 330i (2003) that I bought used one year ago. At that time, I "Dawned" it, clayed it applied one AIO, 3 SG with Sonus Spritz between coats (24 hrs between coats) and two coats of Souveran carnauba. After that, washed and waxed at least every week until November when it started getting too cold. As it's been a mild winter here, I occasionally managed to at least wash once in a while.



Before I did my Spring cleaning last weekend, it still looked great, and it was still beading great; in fact, I had to "Dawn" it twice to get enough off to clay effectively. I gave it a quick polish with SFX2 and repeated last year's treatment. At least to my eye, it now looks better than ever, which was already pretty darn great.



My point is that regular paint maintenence is the best way to keep protected, if you have the time. I generally do. We also have a 2002 Toyota which is black. It has AIO and SG only and it still looks good 9 months later and still beads. A friend of mine has a 2005 Accord with AIO and SGX2 that is still working one year later, but you can tell it's lost its pop, I think partly because it's kept outdoors.



I think the Twins are the greatest in terms of durability and look good, too, but a couple layers of carnauba sure don't hurt the looks.
 
Qship3000- I'm kinda surprised that any amount of Dawn washing would compromise the KSG, it never did it for me. Whenever I want to compromise a LSP I use rubbing alcohol (quick, easy, and effective).



FWIW, unless some contamination has somehow breached the KSG, I just clay gently so as to remove the contamination *from* the existing KSG.
 
Accumulator said:
Qship3000- I'm kinda surprised that any amount of Dawn washing would compromise the KSG, it never did it for me. Whenever I want to compromise a LSP I use rubbing alcohol (quick, easy, and effective).



FWIW, unless some contamination has somehow breached the KSG, I just clay gently so as to remove the contamination *from* the existing KSG.
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All I can say is that after two Dawn apps, water was no longer beading; that's my sole criterion for removal, so perhaps I'm wrong about removal a la Dawn. After two rounds of clay plus the polish, I suspect all was gone.
 
OutlawTitan said:
I have been using the Klasse twins on my wife's white 2002 CRV-EX for 4 years. I usually do a clay, AIO x 1, and SG x 2 (this last time I waited a week and did the 3rd layer of SG). This car is garaged at her office and at home and is usually washed about once every 10 days and get a QuickShine QD after every wash.



With the minimal UV exposure this regimen EASILY holds up for 12 months and I went 16 months once. I am amazed at how well her car looks after I wash it when it has been 9 months or more.....optically it looks as good as the day I apply the Twins. She often comments on how the rain just sheets off her car and it hardly gets dirty and how slick the paint is (I am sure the QS is a factor on this and now I am starting to use #425 which is really slick). For a great looking, durable combo with minimal maintenance (which is the perfect combo for the wife) it is very difficult to do better than the Klasse Twins.
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You've got good paint that's always been stored inside and several times a month gets a hit with QuickShine QD spray.



You may or may not have any SG on there. It's shining because of the care you're giving the paint and car. The results you get are a testiment to the work you do, not to SG.
 
Foxtrapper......I wish I could take the credit but IMO it is definitely the Klasse Twins along with lack of exposure that have kept this paint in such good condition. There is no doubt in my mind that the SG is still at work after all these months. I am not sure how I can quantify that statement except that there is no discernible difference in the beading/sheeting action on the paint after 2 washes or after 30 washes. I don't think it gets enough QS to have helped anything except the looks on a short term basis (maybe 24-48 hours). All I know is that she gets a lot of compliments on the looks of her car and I don't spend 1/5 as much time on hers as I do my own. I do know that I am not interested in changing the maintenance regimen on the V until I run out of AIO/SG......which looks like another 5 years minimum.
 
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