Highest gloss-inducing polish for use with 845?

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BMW335i

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What is the highest gloss polish for use before applying 845...In other words, what is the most "compatible" polish...Thanks.
 
BMW335i said:
Cool. What about Zaino? By the way, this will be done by hand. I just don't have $200 lying around for a PC!
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Zaino isn't a polish, unless you're speaking about ZPC.



Menzerna PO106FF and Menzeran Final Polish are the wettest polishes I've used yet...



You might want to look into Blackfire too...
 
Well, I am considering "polishes" that aren't abrasive as well. Things like Z5 pro, Z2..etc..Not only the abrasive stuff.
 
BMW335i said:
Well, I am considering "polishes" that aren't abrasive as well. Things like Z5 pro, Z2..etc..Not only the abrasive stuff.
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Z2/Z5 are not polishes, they are sealants.
 
BMW335i said:
Well, I am considering "polishes" that aren't abrasive as well. Things like Z5 pro, Z2..etc..Not only the abrasive stuff.
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Autoglym Super Resin Polish is mild, really wets the paint. Used it on a Red Silverado pickup..



You could see the truck coming down the road a mile away. The color is called Victory Red, I think.



what color is your chariot?
 
silk said:
Autoglym Super Resin Polish is mild, really wets the paint. Used it on a Red Silverado pickup..



You could see the truck coming down the road a mile away. The color is called Victory Red, I think.



what color is your chariot?
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Titanium silver...I was wondering if 845 is even a good wax for it. I see a lot of 335i's using Z5 as a sealant ( I always thought it was a polish).
 
BMW335i said:
Cool. What about Zaino? By the way, this will be done by hand. I just don't have $200 lying around for a PC!
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get a polishing pal, used by hand, comes with 4" pc pads... it's worth it....



sometimes i don't feel like breaking out the PC. I'll just toss a layer on the hood, top, and trunk,( the areas of most exposure...) no need to break out all the artillery for that.



Wolfgang Polishin’ Pal is an ergonomically shaped urethane handle that holds specially designed foam pads using hooks & loops.
 
BMW335i said:
Titanium silver...I was wondering if 845 is even a good wax for it. I see a lot of 335i's using Z5 as a sealant ( I always thought it was a polish).
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you want looks? or durability? both? I wax 2-4 times a month, so 845 is overkill for me.

S100, is a piece of cake to use. Honestly, if you use a good polish, anything will look nice.



At the moment I have layers of layers of about 4 different products on mine..lol
 
silk said:
you want looks? or durability? both? I wax 2-4 times a month, so 845 is overkill for me.

S100, is a piece of cake to use. Honestly, if you use a good polish, anything will look nice.



At the moment I have layers of layers of about 4 different products on mine..lol
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I don't care as much about durability, so I definetly want looks.



How does this sound



Wash

Clay

Menzerna 106 FF

Z5 pro w/ ZFX or 845???
 
It will always be a compromise. If you don't want to use abrasive polishes, yet you still want to hide your minor swirls, you have to use a filling product. Good fillers (glazes - containing oils, concealers) are somewhat unstable and you'll be unable to establish a stable, durable foundation upon them. Ergo: no point in using the Zainos because they'll fail sooner than usual (because of the prep-compromise - causing incompatibility/bonding issues).



845 is far more forgiving in this context, but if you truly want a swirl free car - and not a swirl free LOOKING car, you simply have to remove them. This will be a very exhausting process by hand - or invest into a DA polisher.



If durability is your main goal, don't use glazes. If optics you are looking for, use a glaze to hide your minor (!) imperfections, but prepare to do the whole process more frequently.
 
Thanks for replies. I think I got a really nice process



Wash

Clay

Klasse AIO

Z5pro w/ ZFX

Collinite 845?



Will the 845 even bond well to the Z5? Since Z5 is a sealant, and 845 is a wax, they might not be compatible with each other?



I am not looking to remove every defect. I want to try and avoid a PC, if possible. However, if the outcome with a PC is great enough, I will invest in one. I MAINLY want a simple process, with good filling properties and very DEEP gloss. Thanks.
 
BMW335i said:
Thanks for replies. I think I got a really nice process



Wash

Clay

Klasse AIO

Z5pro w/ ZFX

Collinite 845?



Will the 845 even bond well to the Z5? Since Z5 is a sealant, and 845 is a wax, they might not be compatible with each other?



I am not looking to remove every defect. If my dad saw me with a PC on this car he would kill me, lol. I MAINLY want a simple process, with good filling properties and very DEEP gloss. Thanks.
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AIO won't do much to polish your paint. It may clean it a bit (but not as effective as via PC). I wouldn't waste my time topping Z5pro, but that is me. You won't be doing anything for your swirls with this solution you have. Swirls may show up more once you complete the process.
 
Menzerna polishes work best with by machine, because their abrasives are most effective when agitated by the raw force of a machine (they polish while they cut). Menzerna uses aluminum oxide as the main abrasive, and this is a very hard material. It means that it won't break down easily by hand.



A small amount of this powder can be found in the AG SRP & PR as well, and as Silk said they are very user friendly polishes. The SRP works mechanically, but it contains concealing additives, so it may be the best solution for your case.
 
xspeedy said:
AIO won't do much to polish your paint. It may clean it a bit (but not as effective as via PC). I wouldn't waste my time topping Z5pro, but that is me. You won't be doing anything for your swirls with this solution you have. Swirls may show up more once you complete the process.
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Can you reccomend me a process? If a PC will make the paint look much better than hand, I might invest in one, but if possible, please stick to hand applications! Thank you.



Again, the swirling is VERY minimal. It is a new car.
 
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