High Dollar Waxes?

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jdonnell

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I always wanted to try an expensive wax to see if they are worth it but never took the plunge. By expensive I mean something like $150-200. I see Zymol, Blackfire and Wolfgang's has some in that price range. Anyone have any dealings with the expensive waxes? Preferences? Mostly, is there that big a difference than $40-50 waxes? Thanks
 
Thanks. I did review that review article prior to posting. I have used BF products and Wolfgang's and like both of them. Great products, but still just wondered if expensive stuff really is that much better.
 
I do agree that Max Wax is outstanding for the price. Ive got some Souveran, and honestly Im not impressed at all with it. Black Ice does seem to produce some great results, and after seeing the write up Joe done about how it withstood a sand storm, Im sold on it. I have a small sample of it and 2 other waxes that I got from a member here, and have been hoarding them back for the right vehicles.
 
I have been very happy with the waxes from BF, CG, and Pinnacle. I was lucky to get a sample of Zymol Vintage. Aside from the sweating issues I really couldn't see a difference between it and the regular priced waxes.
 
Pats300zx said:
I have been very happy with the waxes from BF, CG, and Pinnacle. I was lucky to get a sample of Zymol Vintage. Aside from the sweating issues I really couldn't see a difference between it and the regular priced waxes.
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Which proves that it's all in the prep.;)
 
Dear Friends

"It's all in the prep."

That's easy for you detailing gurus to say, but for those of us who after a year of trying are just now learning to use our polishers with the pad side facing toward our panels, we feel left behind.

Seriously, early this month I spent a couple of hours with a clay bar, Griot's 6" polisher, Lake Country 6.5" green CCS pad (lighter-duty green), and Meguiar's 105 on the hood our our Odyssey. It has one of those really fine scratches in it--so fine it can't be felt. I wore down the pad so its indentations were only about half of their original depth.

And that scratch didn't even diminish.

Now I have some 5.5" low-profile cyan and tangerine Hydro Techs that I hope will do the job.

"It's all in the prep" is what the accomplished say. We defusses want an easier, simpler way to the same results.

"Gimme da mjlinane shine in WO-WA form in which the only prep is gettin' a ride that'll be still long enough for WO."
 
It takes time to get the process in your hands, especially when it comes to polishing. In an instance like that where you keep going after a defect that doesnt want to come out with what your using, try stepping up to something like an orange cutting pad, then go back to your softer pad once its removed. However, if you hammered on it for that long with M105, it should have come out reguardless. Got a pic of the scratch?
 
Jaddie said:
"It's all in the prep" is what the accomplished say. We defusses want an easier, simpler way to the same results.

"Gimme da mjlinane shine in WO-WA form in which the only prep is gettin' a ride that'll be still long enough for WO."
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If it was easy we would all be out of a job. Sorry to break the bad news.

Even the best wax can't eliminate the need for proper prep. As for whether the cost is worth it; if the cost of the prep isn't worth it, then the wax certainly isn't. A $150 wax is not going to give you 3X the look of a $50 wax. But it might be 5%-10%. But, hey, is a designer Coach purse really 10X better than one from TJ MAXX? We all set our own priorities.
 
I find the higher dollar waxes have a better smell, and are generally more pleasant to apply. I have found that BFMS removes a little easier than Bouncer's Vanilla Ice or Sherbet Fizz wax. Not too much to really make a difference. There are a number of high end waxes I want to try, and function really isn't my main buying point. Im a wax freak, I wax my car every week. So I like the process to be a joy, as it usually is. I wish I could get Bouncer's Blue lagoon so bad! Im still looking for my bespoke wax, narrowed it down to Mitchell & King or some more Definitive Wax :)
 
Have/had my share of high $$$ waxes. (always seem to get the "latest and greatest") but I end up going back to my "good ole stand by's" I know what to expect, and always get it.
 

At the end of the day I personally really think it comes down to personal preference.

I have used A few you listed. And they are very nice and easy to work with. I am also testing out Miglore Primo and it is a PITA to use so far. If you like and enjoy waxing your car there are many great options out there from low end to high end.

I will agree that MaxWax is a great entry level wax that looks as good and some of the more expensive options.


It is really all in the prep. The better your prep the better the LSP will look.


IMO there is a lot other things that are a lot worse and more expensive that collecting waxes and car care products.

 
I've tried a few waxes over the years and I always feel nothing beats collinite 845. The beads are tight, the water sheets, the car looks wet, and it lasts forever. Btw it's 16$! I always say I wish I had used 845 again after the beading isn't as tight or the water isn't sheeting as well after a month with other waxes.
 
Thanks for the info fellas. Maybe when there is a sale or birthday I'll go for one. BTW, I never heard of this Blue Lagoon stuff until this thread. Always find something new out here on this forum.
 
Rsurfer said:
Which proves that it's all in the prep.;)
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Prep is not as hard as it is as it was 10 years ago. I could teach an adult with a rupes for 2 days and they would be able to a good correction job if I had several different types of polishes and pads.

Look at all of the videos on youtube and everyone on the message boards recommending gg6 or some other polisher. A lot of these car care sites feature polisher kits on their front sales pages.

I've worked on my friend's and people in the local pca club with crazy expensive cars getting rid of RIDS, key marks, and swirls with my rupes 15, sonax perfect finish, menz fg400, scholls s3 gold, and menz sf4500. Most times, I only need a small combo of pads and polishes, but you never know what might you need so it's always best to have bottles of all sorts of polishes and a bagful of pads.


And as far as waxes go. Try something like zymol glasur or af desire.
 
To the OP, what are you looking for in a wax? There are so many waxes out there from 10 bucks to over 10 grand! So like our great members here have mention ( prep work , personal preference) what are the important factor your looking for? IMO I recommend using any of these great waxes that sold here which everyone has usr and love.

Blackfire , Poorboys, Collnite 845 or Chemcial Guys Pete's 53. These great products from the Autopia Car Care Store are to me the best bang for your buck!
 
As a manufacturer I feel high price waxes are a crock. We have done numerous double blind tests and the results have little relation to the prices. More than that... I couldn't make a wax that costs anything close to the numbers demanded by some. We have done some serious ends with all manner of polymers and resins and rarely do our cost prices exceed 20-30 dollars per litre. Convert to your normal pot and you are talking a few dollars of wax, even with advanced formulas. So quite frankly, 100 waxes mean someone is making a killing from you.

I do appreciate some people like collecting and like the fancy packaging and this is great. However that is the primary merit of a high end wax.
 
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