HELp! Paint problem on my new s2000

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dale 3

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My dealer put a "diamond kote" on my new s2000, it looks great in indoor. But the problem is that it looks terrible in some angles under the sunlight.



Anyone have had this experience? Any solution to fix it beside repainting it? Is this buffer burn or just swirl?



Thank you





King



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Here is the link of discussion in S2000 forum

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That's just terrible. Did you have to pay for it? First thing I would do is get your money back, and then some. It will cost you some money to remove those defects, though a PC might be able to handle it. Bottom line is that this shouldn't happen to a brand new car. A repaint is not necessary, but a heavy polishing will be.
 
Its hard to tell if those are trademark rotary 'holograms' or just smears. Have you washed the car since it has been done? Its something that definitely needs to be taken back to the dealership so they can fix it. It is something that is totally fixable. You just don't want to have to be the one doing it because it will take awhile if it is from a rotary.
 
First off... Nice car! (except the marks)



Thos could either be rotary holograms or swirls. Both can be fixed. Take the car back to the dealer, get it fixed (don't accept anything other than perfect) then on your way home pick up some tire dressing. :)
 
It can be fixed but you need a pro not the guy that did that. Good detailers are a good body shop guy should be able to repair the swirls.
 
That can be removed.



I removed that from timelessRiders car. Another detailer made a mess out of his car.



It took some time and lots of elbow grease but it all came out.



There is a link somewhere here about it
 
I would definitely take it to the dealer and ask that they pay for the repair but I'd get some professional detailer fix it. Dealership will likely try to let their guy do the repairs and this is the person that caused the damage in the first place so stay away from him.

You need to get rid of the swirls permanently and dealership may just put a glaze to cover them and they'll show up again after the first wash.

Get an opinion and a quote from a pro so you'll know what it'll take to fix the damage.
 
Hey NYD.. You are my sunshine in the storms. Too bad that I live too far away from you (west coast canada), otherwise I will be pleased to have you fix it. ;) May you briefly explain how it can be fixed? I am not going to do it by myself but i just want to make sure that the one who is going to fix it do it the right way.
 
kfcho said:
Hey NYD.. You are my sunshine in the storms. Too bad that I live too far away from you (west coast canada), otherwise I will be pleased to have you fix it. ;) May you briefly explain how it can be fixed? I am not going to do it by myself but i just want to make sure that the one who is going to fix it do it the right way.
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First you need to remove the product that is on the car right now. Use DAWN to wash the car, then clay the entire car, then re-wash the car again with auto soap. Be sure the entire vehicle is dry.



Now use 3m smr OUTDOORS!!!! Under certain lights you will not see those marks. You need to have sunlight hit the panels so you can see what is going on. I move cars around so the sunlight is always hitting them on the angle i want. I buffed that car about 3x's each panel with 3m smr, then i use a machine glaze and or final polish. I am not sure if i used s100 on that car or not, but i would top off with s100 as well.



That should do the trick. You may not need a rotary to do this, you can do it with a PC.



If the dealer still does not understand, let me know and i will give you my cell #, next time you go to the dealer you call me and i will speak to the person they call a "detailer" and explain it to him.



NYD
 
One good news for now is that my dealer promise to fix it.

And the other is that, I will be talking directly to the Honda inspection center's General manager later today.
 
Hey Guys,

Diamond Kote is marketed as a paint preserver. The company claims that it actually penetrates the paint and makes it more hard and durable. This is suppose to prevent stone chips and maintain a lifelong shine( hahahahaha!!) It is only available to dealers and not the consumer. It comes in a @2oz bottle that is enough to do the whole car. It is very very expensive. It costs around $120 Can. for this small bottle.



I would make the dealer buff up the paint to get rid of the swirls. You can not do much about the Diamond Kote, but adding layers of Polymer Sealant or a Carnauba wax will make it just sparkle!!



And yes, I believe that the marketing is mostly hype!!
 
Dawn will not touch stuff like Diamond Kote (Ziebart offers something like that as well), even with daily dishwashing liquid/tide/whatever you use, it'll stay there for quite a while... Best way to remove it is through a chemical cleaner, something like APC+ then follow up with a chemical paint cleaner like AIO or something...



I see A LOT of new cars here in Manila that has that problem after being "treated" by such paint protection... The problem isn't on the protective product that they apply, it's the paint prep, most guys are simply not trained to detail, they'll just use a wool pad and a rotary to "BUFF" the surface then apply their product... hence, the halos...
 
From my understanding, you can not remove Diamond Kote as it penetrates into the paint. If you are in an accident, the body shop has to strip the paint completely before repainting(this what I was told). This is some pretty tough stuff!
 
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