Help needed with Klasse

tlsrmw

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This weekend I washed, clayed, washed again, AIO and then KSG. In applying KSG, I moistened a MF applicator with a couple of shots of Showtime. I removed the KSG with a damp MF and then a dry MF. Finished everything last evening.



Today, the KSG on one side of my hood only has blistered. What happened?



To fix it, can I just AIO over the affected area and then apply KSG again.



Thanks all.
 
tlsrmw said:
This weekend I washed, clayed, washed again, AIO and then KSG. In applying KSG, I moistened a MF applicator with a couple of shots of Showtime. I removed the KSG with a damp MF and then a dry MF. Finished everything last evening.



Today, the KSG on one side of my hood only has blistered. What happened?



To fix it, can I just AIO over the affected area and then apply KSG again.



Thanks all.



WTH...:confused:



I can't even imagine what you are talking about with the blister statement... You mean there are little pockets of air trapped under the KSG or small wrinkles??? How? Was the hood real hot when you applied the product?



LOL



TC

:nixweiss
 
Yes, there are little bubbles (approx 1-2 cm) all over the hood. The hood was cool to the touch when applied. Outside temp was approx 60 degrees at about 5:00 pm in NJ.
 
When you applied what part of the car did you do first .. was it the side of the hood that blistered?
 
When you applied what part of the car did you do first .. was it the side of the hood that blistered?



As a matter of fact it was. Only half of the hood blistered, and it's the half I applied KSG to first.
 
You are sure these are pockets of air? So when you press on them, they change size, deflate, etc.?



I've pressed on a few. They collapse onto the KSG and mar the finish. They could be bubbles of KSG I suppose. They are clear and they look somewhat like tapioca in terms of size and shape.
 
Just a gues.. maybe the Showtime caused some form of reaction. Don't know the solution to your problem .. just more trying to maybe help it not happen again.
 
Jesstzn said:
Just a gues.. maybe the Showtime caused some form of reaction.



I might go with this as well.... unless you put the KSG on real thick and not thin... then maybe something strange.. pretty weird.. :eek:



TC

:xyxthumbs
 
Wery weird indeed. Do you have or could you take any pic, I think for the users of KSG as myself could be interesting see something like that.
 
Have you ever done any comparison testing of products by splitting the hood down the middle??? Just throwin' it out there...



No. First time for anything on the car. Received the car late August and only washed it regularly since.
 
I would try using aio on the entire hood to get rid of sg.. If sg is the cause, the bubbles should disappear. Then SG half the hood to see if the bubbles appear again on the SG'ed side.
 
Any updates on this? This is VERY strange and I can't even guess as to what this is or how it could come about. :nixweiss



Are you sure there's no chance that something might have sprayed/fallen on that part of the car at some point?
 
Any updates on this? This is VERY strange and I can't even guess as to what this is or how it could come about



I haven't had a chance to take a picture because it's been dark lately when I leave and when I get home from work. This weekend I will AIO the entire hood and then KSG (this time I'll use a light mist of distilled water on the applicator). Either of the suggestions offered - applied too thick or reacted with Showtime - are possible. I'm hoping for a better report Monday.
 
KSG, should be applied with a dry applictor. The bubbles could be a reaction of the SG and FD that you had sprayed on the pad. Try using AIO on that side of the hood and then reapplying the KSK with a dry pad. Then after it dry use the damp and dry MF to remove.
 
I believe you can use Eagle One QD to apply Klasse. 24 Hrs later apply the KSG using nothing else. See the Klasse writeup on this site or at CMA
 
The showtime QD has trace amounts of carnuba. That was most likely the cause of your problem. Use a non-carnuba QD with klasse sg. Megs FI or eagle one are good and readily available. And if you're really serious, you can buy the sonus qd from cma.



And as stated, just re-aio the area and re-apply your sg.
 
Forrest has said that Showtime doesn't contain any carnauba and should be compatible with just about anything.



People have used Showtime for pretty much everything at some point...
 
Update:



It rained here in NJ Tuesday and the temperature dropped to the mid 40s. On Wedesday the bubbles were gone. You can see the spots where I collapsed some of the bubbles, but the rest of the hood now shines like the trunk lid. I'm considering QDing the areas that you can see marks, and applying second and third coats this weekend (24 hours apart of course). In the alternative, I could AIO the former trouble spots and lay down a new first coat on the hood.
 
Redo with AIO first to get the SG off then re-SG using nothing else during its application. If not and it gets warm again the bubbles may reappear.
 
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