Help decide, (3) Vapor Steamers

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Jordan@DD

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After having such a difficult time finding reviews of different vapor cleaning machines, I thought it was time to create a thread on it. Please help me decide which one to buy!



I just copy and pasted the specs. If there are any other units to consider, I’d like to know.



Because of my budget, only commercial grade units under 1,000 will be considered.



4000 C/S Steam Vapor Cleaning System ($745/845)



http://www.cleangrout.com/commercial_4000c.htm



Power supply: 110/120 v

Dimensions: 10 3/4" x 12" x 18"

Total power consumption: 1600 watts

Actual Water Capacity in Boiler

Tank: 3 liters

Reserve tank: 2 liters - For Continuous Operation S only

Operating Pressure: Adjustable 0 to 65 psi

Weight: 28 lbs.

Operating Time: Continuous Operation

Steam Vapor Temperature: up to 310° F Boiler Temperature

Up to 270 deg. F at Nozzle

Housing: Stainless steel Boiler: Industrial Grade Stainless Steel with Lifetime Warranty Extended Warranty: 1 year on system (part & labor)

3 years on system (parts)

Lifetime on Boiler



This unit seems very similar to the eurosteam 1900.



Vapor Clean TR6 ($600)



http://www.vaporcleanproducts.com/vapor.htm



• 1.5 Qt. capacity - 2 Qt. reservoir.... non-stop 24/7 cleaning time

• 0-65 psi - 298 - 302 F. Boiler Temp

• 240 - 270 operating temp.

• Variable Pressure Control Dial

• Digital Temperature & Pressure gauge

• Detachable Hose

• Safety Handle with fingertip control

• Ready light

• 15 ft electrical cord / Optimal 8 ft hose

• Audible beeper notification when reservoir needs refilling

• 15 lbs

• 16Lx13Wx12H

• Heats in 3 minutes

• Tungsten (TIG) Welded boiler

• Ergonomically designed handle for easy carrying

• A complete set of excellent quality tools & accessories

• Casters for easy mobility

• Powerful 1700 watt for faster recovery - yet, low 14 amp draw. Use on any 15 amp household circuit trouble free.

• Currently the only ISO 9001 Certified Manufacturer of Steam Vapor Cleaners in the US.

• Extended Warranty 1 year parts and labor

2 year parts / Lifetime Boiler

• Factory Authorized Service Center





DAIMER PRO PLUS 300CS PROFESSIONAL ($747)



http://www.daimer.com/comfiles/pages/20.shtml



Power supply 110/120 volts

Dimensions 12"w. x 16"d. x 10"h.

Total power consumption 1600 watts

Boiler tank (no pressure cap) 2 liters Non-Pressurized Refill Chamber (Add Water "On the Fly" for Non-Stop Cleaning) 2 liters

Steam temperature Up to 310 deg. F

Vapor pressure Adjustable up to 75 PSI Weight 23 lbs.

Heating time 12-15 minutes (Cold Water), 8-10 minutes (Hot Water)

Operating Time 24/7 continuous

System Housing Polished Stainless Steel

Boiler Stainless Steel Warranty 1 year on system (parts & labor), 3 years on system (parts), LIFETIME on the boiler
 
Funny you should mention this topic as I've been thinking about getting one myself. Looking at the 3 you have posted it seems they're all well made and would probably handle most any job that came along in detailing. I was most impressed with Daimer though probably because of the continous refill capability. Heating time is nothing to get excited about 8- 10 minutes at the fastest. Seems to be well built and for the price I don't think it can be beat. Let me/us know which one you decide on and I'd be interested in hearing how it works for you so don't forget to keep us informed.
 
Noting that I have the Daimer's big brother, I'd go with that one of the three listed.



The refill on the fly really *IS* handy, much more so than I had expected it to be (and note that mine has a much bigger tank than the 300CS). And based on comparisons between my Daimer and my other steamer (DeLonghi Euaro Steamer, ~60 psi IIRC), the seemingly small differences in heat and psi really make a *big* difference functionally speaking.



The Daimer people are good to deal with too. I asked for some freebies when I ordered mine and while they said they couldn't make any promises, I got 'em (free extra brushes).



Whichever you get, *don't* pull on the hose! It's just *so* easy and convenient to move the machine that way, but you can render it inop in no time (gee, ask how I know *that* :o ). When I needed to next-day the new hose, they got it to me overnight, and they didn't make me feel like an idiot for needing it.
 
Accumulator,



I've read just about every vapor related post you've made. There really isn't much input on the different steamers.



I'd like to go with the unit you got but its just too much money for a part time detailer.



Thanks for your help,



Jordan
 
Jordan- Mine *was* pricey, and it's a big, bulky thing too. It sounds like the Daimer you're considering has most of the power that mine does anyhow, just a bit smaller and without the chemical injection (which I haven't used yet). Hope you find it (whichever one you get) as handy as I do mine, but as you've seen me post before, IMO they aren't the miracle-workers that some say they are either.
 
Jordan: I've been using that same Daimer for about 18 months and love it.





I have pretty soft water and just fill it when needed. I wipe it down with QD every now and then and it looks great. As far as performance, I really couldn't ask for more. It gets hot and powerful without any dripping, just accelerated steam.
 
I just spent 45 minutes on the phone with Matt, a sales rep for Daimer. Real nice guy.



I might pay up for the 1500c instead. There are a few reasons why. I want a cart with my unit. I could add the cart to the 300cs but it would end up weighing almost the same as the 1500c. For almost $400 more that the 300cs + cart, i could have a very nice industrial quality unit. I'm still not sure... It's a pretty big investment.



Plus if I ever decide to take on a big job, like tile, the 1500c would be nice.
 
Jordan@DD said:
I might pay up for the 1500c instead.. I'm still not sure... It's a pretty big investment... if I ever decide to take on a big job, like tile, the 1500c would be nice.
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If you can swing the added expense, you can guess which one I'd recommend ;) But $400 is a fair amount of money to tack on to the cost of one that might do the job just fine, and a smaller unit might even have some advantages...just have to try to figure out which one's gonna be best for *your* application :nixweiss
 
Accumulator,



I'm wondering how you justified spending a little extra for the 1500?



And thanks for your input.



Jordan
 
Jordan@DD said:
Accumulator,



I'm wondering how you justified spending a little extra for the 1500?
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The smaller Diaimer was just too similar to the DeLonghi steamer I already had, plus the refill-on-the-fly and chemical injection sounded like worthwhile upgrades.



And, (I hope this doesn't sound snobbish, :o but) I could afford it and I've found that I generally do best to buy commercial-quality equipment. I've very seldom decided that such stuff was overkill, but when I buy lesser units of a "homeowner/consumer" level I often end up upgrading eventually anyhow.
 
Cool! Hope you like it as much as I like mine.



Just remember to *never* pull it around by the hose :o



Heh heh, IIRC the assembly instructions were written by somebody whose english isn't too hot, but it's pretty easy to figure out.
 
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