Hello ONR....Goodbye Water Hose

B-Diddy

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So I decided to jump on the ONR bandwagon and ordered a gallon the other day. I got it today and immediatly put it to work. My truck was pretty dirty so I figured it would be a good test. The truck was polished with #80 and waxed with #26 back in june....in october it was sealed up with #21. From there on out it has had washes at the local DIY car wash due to water restrictions.

I am pretty impressed and probably won't pick up another hose again unless it is just totally covered in mud. The ONR left the finish just as slick and glossy as any detail spray/spray wax that I've used.

I only used the 1 bucket method to really test it out. Then on a whim I washed my wifes old car (now just our 3rd car beater w/175k miles) with the left over dirty water from the truck. I went about it really carelessly and washed half the car without rinsing the mit. This car hadn't been washed or waxed in over 3 months...it still didn't swirl it up and the car was nasty. I didn't get any befores of the car since I hadn't planned on washing it.

On to the pics.



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I agree, ONR is the way to go unless a vehicle is caked in mud. Once you really get the hang of it, ONR is a real time saver too.
 
I was surprised to see how fast it was. It took no longer that a quick detail spray would have. The only thing I had to get used to was the feel of the salt crunching as I drug the mit over it on the first pass. I kinda winced on the first couple panels, but didn't pay any attention to it by the end.

I was also surprised at how streak free the truck dried. Usually I'd wash the truck, dry it, and go over it with UQD to get the streaks out. With this stuff I dried it with my normal microfiber towel and it soaked it up alot better than water alone. What little water was left just evaporated and disappeared.
 
Radicalrev said:
would ONR topped off with UQD works?? or would the UQD won't make a difference?



You'd be better off topping with OCW. It will last longer and is just as easy to apply.



JustinDetail said:
Do those of you that use ONR spray the vehicle down first to at least get the crud looser before ONR'ing it?



I don't. During the winter, I'll use a garden sprayer on the wheel wells to help loosen up some of the sand/salt that is caked inside. But as far as the paint is concerned, I don't pre-spray.
 
I have used ONR twice but I still like the traditional method. It just takes longer using ONR.



My only observation is if ONR works then the concept of foaming car wash, etc. is just eye candy. Eye candy can be good.
 
mshu7 said:
Yep. As long as the surface has been prepped recently (clayed, polished), using OS after ONR would be great.



what if the surface hasn't been prepped recently (the past 8 months)? what would happen if I use OS after ONR? would it be a noticeable mistake or just not a perfect finish?
 
The thing is.. you wouldn't notice the swirls after one wash even if you just wiped the car down with a towel and no water.



I've used no rinse products before doing mobile detailers and i must say they do put in extra swirls no matter how good you are. Once you start doing washing the same car a dozen times after a complete swirl removal you can see how bad it is after a few washes.



Using a normal hose first up to dislodge most of the dirt definitely helps. You really need a long term analysis to determine swirl build up.



My car has a custom spray job that wasn't baked so its stupidly soft, so i can demonstrate in a single wash what most cars would take a year to demonstrate.



Any form of washing will lead to swirls and marring. Optimum no rinse is by no means the safest form of washing your car. But there are hundreds of ways that you could do a worse job.



In water restrictions its the lesser of the evils.



Nothing beats.



High-ish pressure hose soak.

Foaming car wash and washmit, even with foam gun.

High-ish pressure rinse.

Then sheet 90% of the water off with a low pressure hose.



But as you're still rubbing the surface all that extra effort wont produce noticable improvements over ONR until a dozen washes. Pretty minor really.
 
Stero87 said:
what if the surface hasn't been prepped recently (the past 8 months)? what would happen if I use OS after ONR? would it be a noticeable mistake or just not a perfect finish?



IMO, you'd be putting a sealant on top of "dirty" paint. What I mean by this is that even though the vehicle is clean from washing with ONR, you're paint still isn't as clean as it could be. You'll get better results (durability & looks) with OS (or any LSP) if the surface has been properly prepped. I think claying is a must for a vehicle that hasn't been detailed in 8 months.



As B-Diddy said, with your situation, PS would be a better fit (again, I suggest claying first). After PS cures you could then top it with OS. :bigups
 
ONR is an awesome product. I kinda wish I would of gotten the gallon size and not the smaller bottle.



I always spray the vehicle down with a water hose before using ONR. Reduces the potential of swirls ALOT.
 
Yeah...it was my first order of it, but I found the gallon from palm beach motoring through amazon.com for 33.99.....the 32 oz was 15.99 so I figured I'd get 4 times as much for twice the money.

I'm glad I sprung for the gallon....I think its gonna be one of my favorite/most usefel products in my arsenal.
 
TTWAGN said:
The thing is.. you wouldn't notice the swirls after one wash even if you just wiped the car down with a towel and no water.



I've used no rinse products before doing mobile detailers and i must say they do put in extra swirls no matter how good you are. Once you start doing washing the same car a dozen times after a complete swirl removal you can see how bad it is after a few washes.



Using a normal hose first up to dislodge most of the dirt definitely helps. You really need a long term analysis to determine swirl build up.



My car has a custom spray job that wasn't baked so its stupidly soft, so i can demonstrate in a single wash what most cars would take a year to demonstrate.



Any form of washing will lead to swirls and marring. Optimum no rinse is by no means the safest form of washing your car. But there are hundreds of ways that you could do a worse job.



In water restrictions its the lesser of the evils.



Nothing beats.



High-ish pressure hose soak.

Foaming car wash and washmit, even with foam gun.

High-ish pressure rinse.

Then sheet 90% of the water off with a low pressure hose.



But as you're still rubbing the surface all that extra effort wont produce noticable improvements over ONR until a dozen washes. Pretty minor really.





have u you used ONR or QEW or just some" no rinse product"
 
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