heating up the clear coat.

mtbr64

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while looking around the city for good detail shops. i found a detailer with 25 years experience who would do my intire car inside out and engine. shampoo the interior essentially making the car new again.

he is willing to the job for 600 canadian dollars roughly 500 american



he told me that he will used a polishing machine to heat up my clear coat to get rid of everysingle swirl and seal it and wax it.



then do the interior and engine.



ive never heard of heating up the clear coat.



does this guy knwo what he's talking about?



what type of questions should i be asking a detailer so i don't get screwed.
 
Sounds like he means that he will use a rotary to create some heat. When using a rotary the surface will become "heated up" You don't want it hot of course.
 
I have no idea what he means by heating the clear coat up, but where do you live man, $600 is a lot of money for a full car detail.
 
i live in edmonton alberta canada, that seems to be the going rate around here. but i told him that i wanted the best of the best. swirl removals and all. essentially i want the paint to be show car quality.



ive checked around with other reputable detail shops and that's what they charge around here to. im looking to get this done right so all i have to do from this point on is maintain it.
 
Any time you rub on something you get heating due to friction. It's just the way of physics. The more aggressively you buff the more you’ll warm the surface.



It’s a common enough misconception that the heating is somehow desirable or even the point of the process when it’s really just an unavoidable byproduct.



25 years of detailing experience is a good thing. 3 months of experience repeated 100 times is not.



Paint systems have changed a lot in a quarter of a century, as have care products and processes for using them. If your detailer has kept up with the new technologies while preserving old-world craftsmanship he’s a valuable resource. If he was a hack way back when and insists on doing things the way he’s always done them because that’s the way he’s always done them he’s still a hack.



You may want to ask him about what his process is, what types of products he uses and why. Most good detailers are proud of their choices and are willing to explain why their skills and procedures justify their costs.







PC.
 
I'd definitely ask the detailer about products and tools.



The prior detailer in the BMW dealer I now work for came from a body shop environment. He would use a cutting pad and compound on sheet metal until the heat made the metal "pop"...especially the hood/trunk.



The dealer thought that was the way it's supposed to be and I disagreed. My work came out better (took a little longer..but far safer) and the dealer since found out from his paint shop that heating sheet metal until it "pops" is not good. Today's paints with clear coat don't need that pressure/heat applied to make them scratch/swirl-free.



Totoland Mach
 
the other pc said:
25 years of detailing experience is a good thing. 3 months of experience repeated 100 times is not.





That is so true. I love that saying. So many people get caught in that rut.
 
mtbr64 said:
i live in edmonton alberta canada, that seems to be the going rate around here. but i told him that i wanted the best of the best. swirl removals and all. essentially i want the paint to be show car quality.



ive checked around with other reputable detail shops and that's what they charge around here to. im looking to get this done right so all i have to do from this point on is maintain it.

ScottWax needs to move to Canada :ca
 
mtbr64 said:
while looking around the city for good detail shops. i found a detailer with 25 years experience who would do my intire car inside out and engine. shampoo the interior essentially making the car new again.

he is willing to the job for 600 canadian dollars roughly 500 american



he told me that he will used a polishing machine to heat up my clear coat to get rid of everysingle swirl and seal it and wax it.



then do the interior and engine.



ive never heard of heating up the clear coat.



does this guy knwo what he's talking about?



what type of questions should i be asking a detailer so i don't get screwed.



Show car is throwing me off. Show car paint would probably start at $400 to -?



For $600 most cars should be a slight step below show car.



Look up "Pro Detail Supply" ask for Greg and ask him if he knows this place or a better one.
 
Scottwax said:
As much as I hate Dallas winters? Ha!



I'd love to visit in the summer but once it gets below 75, I'm out. ;)

Exactly! At these rates you can polish in Canada during summer and have nice savings for Texas winter ;)
 
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