HD SPEED's cut compared to HD POLISH? and how is durability?

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Richard Grasa

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I used HD POLISH on an entire vehicle for the first time yesterday and loved it. Now I'm considering getting HD SPEED to replace Optimum GPS for one-steps. I like GPS mainly for it's long lasting protection, but feel it could use a bit more cut for the deeper swirls. So how does SPEED compare to POLISH for cutting ability? And how long does the protection last in normal weather conditions?
 
Polish cuts more than Speed, I like say maybe 20% more, give or take.



Speed's durability... I would give it 3-5 weeks, but this is greatly dependent on conditions.



I use Speed a lot, it doesn't have great durability but the cut combined with the look it provides before wearing off it great.



If you are looking for long lasting protection however, just use Polish then top with your favorite LSP.
 
IHA Mark said:
Polish cuts more than Speed, I like say maybe 20% more, give or take.



Speed's durability... I would give it 3-5 weeks, but this is greatly dependent on conditions.



I use Speed a lot, it doesn't have great durability but the cut combined with the look it provides before wearing off it great.



If you are looking for long lasting protection however, just use Polish then top with your favorite LSP.
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Yeah, that won't work, then it would have about the same cut as GPS with much less durability. In that case, I'm thinking about changing my one-steps to POLISH topped with OCW, won't take much longer to spray and wipe off the OCW, or maybe Opti-Seal.
 
HD speed was designed for maintance customers who get monthly visits. Its durability should leave you with a months protection, but its cutting characteristics should leave you with just enough cut to remove everyday marring to light swirls. HD Polish will have some great cut for a finishing polish, but it will leave an incredible and true finish. It all depends on what your looking for.
 
Barry Theal said:
HD speed was designed for maintance customers who get monthly visits. Its durability should leave you with a months protection, but its cutting characteristics should leave you with just enough cut to remove everyday marring to light swirls. HD Polish will have some great cut for a finishing polish, but it will leave an incredible and true finish. It all depends on what your looking for.
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I don't have any regular maintenance clients, so I'm looking for something that will give my customers long lasting protection and will remove the deeper swirls I see on most cars I do. I have yet to find a true one-step product that has enough cut for what I'm looking for. I think an extra 10 minutes to put on a coat of OCW or Opti-Seal would be fine after using POLISH. For those that don't need the extra cut, I'll prob stick with GPS.
 
Richard Grasa said:
I have yet to find a true one-step product that has enough cut for what I'm looking for.
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Have you tried ZAIO? It has a good amount of cut and lasts in the 4-6 month range, easily outlasting most "durable" stand alone sealants.
 
Richard Grasa said:
I don't have any regular maintenance clients, so I'm looking for something that will give my customers long lasting protection and will remove the deeper swirls I see on most cars I do. I have yet to find a true one-step product that has enough cut for what I'm looking for. I think an extra 10 minutes to put on a coat of OCW or Opti-Seal would be fine after using POLISH. For those that don't need the extra cut, I'll prob stick with GPS.
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I completely agree. I personally hate one seps. My idea of a one step is a polish then a protectant. Have you tried Garry Dean's Beyond Infinity Sealant this is a fantastic quick sealent that holds up. Its on my car for about 2 months now. I have been playing with it a little. I woud recomend tying it if I were you. Try HD Polish then this. Looks pretty nice!
 
Hey Richard, I've got a bottle of Speed for you if you want it. PM me your address and I'll shoot it out. Gotta mail some Christmas presents out today anyway.



If you've tried Poli-Seal before GPS, I would compare Speed to Poli-Seal in cut. I have never tried GPS or any other AIO; these are the only two I've ever used. I stuck with Poli-Seal because it was easier to use and these cars did not require long protection, so ease of use and cut was the only thing that mattered.



I ONLY do AIO services if the client is selling/trading in the car. I mean, they only save $30 for me to use Polish instead and then Opti-Seal, but $30 for a car you're not keeping is a better idea.



I can't imagine getting a monthly maintenance client (that would be awesome), and I wouldn't let anyone leave without a separate layer of protection, which I would then use Polish first. Polish/Opti-Seal combo is my #1 best seller and $ maker. I don't even tell people about AIO services until they mention selling/trading in the car. Other than that...I sell them on the #1 combo.
 
Dan said:
Have you tried ZAIO? It has a good amount of cut and lasts in the 4-6 month range, easily outlasting most "durable" stand alone sealants.
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While I share your enthusiasm for ZAIO (and give you a :bow for suggesting that I try it!), I never seem to get much of any cut out of it :nixweiss More like a paint cleaner to me, and I figure the abrasives just make it more user-friendly. But OTOH, it *does* mar the [crap] out of certain exterior plastics that I use other AIOs on...funny that I don't seem to get any correction out of it :think: :confused:
 
Accumulator said:
While I share your enthusiasm for ZAIO (and give you a :bow for suggesting that I try it!), I never seem to get much of any cut out of it :nixweiss More like a paint cleaner to me, and I figure the abrasives just make it more user-friendly. But OTOH, it *does* mar the [crap] out of certain exterior plastics that I use other AIOs on...funny that I don't seem to get any correction out of it :think: :confused:
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What pads are you using it with? I use it with white pads and it certainly corrects normal wash or clay induced marring for me, even on hard paint. That level of correction is ideal for me as anything more than normal marring, its time for a real polish.
 
Quenga said:
Hey Richard, I've got a bottle of Speed for you if you want it. PM me your address and I'll shoot it out. Gotta mail some Christmas presents out today anyway.



If you've tried Poli-Seal before GPS, I would compare Speed to Poli-Seal in cut. I have never tried GPS or any other AIO; these are the only two I've ever used. I stuck with Poli-Seal because it was easier to use and these cars did not require long protection, so ease of use and cut was the only thing that mattered.



I ONLY do AIO services if the client is selling/trading in the car. I mean, they only save $30 for me to use Polish instead and then Opti-Seal, but $30 for a car you're not keeping is a better idea.



I can't imagine getting a monthly maintenance client (that would be awesome), and I wouldn't let anyone leave without a separate layer of protection, which I would then use Polish first. Polish/Opti-Seal combo is my #1 best seller and $ maker. I don't even tell people about AIO services until they mention selling/trading in the car. Other than that...I sell them on the #1 combo.
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Thanks Quenga, but I don't think I'd use it so I wouldn't want to put you out the few bucks for shipping. I've got some Poli-Seal I can use if they are that similar. Thanks for the offer!
 
Dan said:
What pads are you using it with? I use it with white pads and it certainly corrects normal wash or clay induced marring for me, even on hard paint. That level of correction is ideal for me as anything more than normal marring, its time for a real polish.
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I've thought about ZAIO, but I've heard the same, the cut is good for light marring, but not the deeper swirls I need to get out on a regular basis. I've got tons of GPS left so I'll just use that up for the lightly marred stuff, maybe try ZAIO for that stuff after I use up the GPS.
 
Dan said:
What pads are you using [ZAIO] with? I use it with white pads and it certainly corrects normal wash or clay induced marring for me, even on hard paint. That level of correction is ideal for me as anything more than normal marring, its time for a real polish.
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I'm using it primarily on GG orange pads (similar to LC Tangerine HydroCut). About the only "cut" I've observed from it is a little improvement on a previously-corrected finish. Maybe it's how I'm using it...like, I'm not being aggressive enough. That could be, I'll have to experiment a little and see if I can get it to do more.



Eh, funny how experiences differ, guess there are a whole lotta variables.
 
Accumulator said:
I'm using it primarily on GG orange pads (similar to LC Tangerine HydroCut). About the only "cut" I've observed from it is a little improvement on a previously-corrected finish. Maybe it's how I'm using it...like, I'm not being aggressive enough. That could be, I'll have to experiment a little and see if I can get it to do more.



Eh, funny how experiences differ, guess there are a whole lotta variables.
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Perhaps you aren't aggressive and maybe you could be using too much, it almost likes to go on dry. Use too much and you get no correction and it reflashes a couple hours after you've buffed it off.
 
Quenga said:
I would compare Speed to Poli-Seal in cut.
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I don't really get any correcting ability out of Poliseal. It seems to be more of a cleaner wax than an AIO IME..



I can't compare it to the SPEED you use as the US version is different to ours.
 
Yeah, I get more cut out of Speed than Poliseal. Poliseal is very mild in every which way.
 
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