HD SPEED durability review

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Leadfootluke

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June 6th I set out to do a test on the durability of HD SPEED. I polished my hood with the Hydrotech pads, Cyan through Crimson, to see how well HD SPEED cut with each respective pad, and what kind of durability I could achieve. At the same time I put some LSP's down on my roof, with HD SPEED applied by hand.



I applied it June 6th and by the end of June 7th, I could see where I applied the LSP's on the roof.

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On the front quarter is the control, with no protection, and it is completely stripped. The next quarter is BFWD sealant, the 3rd quarter is HD SPEED, and the last is Collinite 845. I thought this would give a good comparison with the BFWD and 845 being a pseudo sealant and SPEED containing Poxy.



June 10th I washed the car with a mix of Adam's Shampoo and Griots car wash.



Here is SPEED on the left and 845 on the right

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BFWD on the left and SPEED on the right

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And, control on the left and BFWD on the right

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With the camera on the other side, BFWD on the right and SPEED on the left

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SPEED on the left, 845 on the right

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On to the hood, the SPEED was applied on the hood and 845 on the body. The hood is on the top.

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845 beading, SPEED sheeting, a little

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June 13th I washed it again with ONR, but I rinsed the vehicle with water first. Honestly, the panels with SPEED looked worse than the previous pictures. It didn't bead, it didn't sheet, and it wasn't slick, it was almost squeaky like bare paint.



Today I washed it again with Optimum Car wash and the only "beading" I saw was residual beading from the ONR wash. SPEED on the left, BFWD on the right.

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845 on the left, SPEED on the right

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I really hoped SPEED would have lasted longer, but in all reality, it did look and feel dead after the first wash. I applied it as directed on both the hood and the roof, and whether it was applied by hand or machine, it lasted the same.



However, the van I detailed here looked like it did the day I polished it. I haven't had a chance to wash it again, but it did go on a couple thousand mile trip and came back still slick and glossy.



I hope to continue to use SPEED and continue to test it as I do like it and I felt it left the surface smooth as glass on the last couple vehicles I used it on. The polishing ability is excellent for what it's worth.
 
I've noticed about a week on some cars also, and I think there was another thread stating the same. It appears it needs to be topped with something, and can't be used as a stand alone.
 
I have noticed the lack of durability as well. I'm really wondering why I should continue using this product when I could just use polish, get a better correction, then top with LSP.
 
I hope to continue to use SPEED and continue to test it as I do like it and I felt it left the surface smooth as glass on the last couple vehicles I used it on. The polishing ability is excellent for what it's worth.[/QUOTE]



I have not used Hd Speed yet because I only bought Hd Uno and Hd Polish, I am really happy with them, specially the polish ,sometimes for cutting 105 gives me a better result on European paints, like BMW white color??. From what I have been reading about Hd Speed and as you said at the end of your review, it is a great polish that leaves surface with a great shine and finish...I do not think this products is sold to be a great wax with a lot of protection.
 
WRXsubaru2010 said:
I do not think this products is sold to be a great wax with a lot of protection.
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Here is a quote taken from one of their board reps:



"This remarkable product restores color, depth, and gloss while adding a long lasting wax to the surface.

Great for those who want quick paint correction with amazing paint protection."
 
pwaug said:
Once a LSP stops beading does it absolutely mean there is no protection remaining??
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I'm getting 2 weeks durability with Speed. Something needs to be done. I get 6 weeks with D151 and 7-8 weeks with Poorboy's Polish with Sealant.
 
pwaug said:
Once a LSP stops beading does it absolutely mean there is no protection remaining??
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No, but honestly with the slickness gone and it not being able to shed dirt, debris very easily, I think it's valid to say the protection is lacking.



I get 1+ week of beading, slickness from ONR alone.
 
It's odd than no 3D employee has commented yet...usually they would almost immediately. I'm curious as to how they would respond.
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Noting that I am not a 3D employee.....



and I can only comment on the cars I used Speed on back in May...



I reached out to the clients that I used Speed on and both (2) claimed that the cars looked great and were beading nice. These cars are driven very little (once per week atleast) and garage kept but are washed semi-regularly. I'm not sure about the problems others are going through, but you might want to address your concerns directly to Tunch or Juan @ 3D. They are the only ones that can and should comment on this.



In the meantime, if you're after longer protection characteristics, it may be better to follow up with a light coat of POXY.
 
Justin Murphy said:
I'm getting 2 weeks durability with Speed. Something needs to be done. I get 6 weeks with D151 and 7-8 weeks with Poorboy's Polish with Sealant.
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Do you have any 50/ 50 pictures after using the PB Polish w/ Sealant?
 
Justin Murphy said:
I'm getting 2 weeks durability with Speed. Something needs to be done. I get 6 weeks with D151 and 7-8 weeks with Poorboy's Polish with Sealant.
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Have you tried DG501 or ZAIO? DG501 goes 4 months easy for me, ZAIO a couple more on top of that. I've actually got ZAIO on a friends car that is 2 months shy of hitting the one year mark. Its garage parked at night but spends its days outside and its a dark blue.
 
I really need to get some ZAIO and try it, been saying that for years now but I want to see what it's all about. DG501 is definitely a winner, actually I've not been disappointed with DG at all yet.
 
Just so you guys understand what is going on with AIO products.



You can have great cutting and polishing ability, or longer durability. You can't have both. SPEED cuts well.



I agree, that 2 weeks is pretty short in the OP's case, but as I have said from the very beginning: top HD SPEED with HD POXY. The time you save by applying SPEED gives you the chance to pot Poxy on.
 
Thomas Dekany said:
Just so you guys understand what is going on with AIO products.



You can have great cutting and polishing ability, or longer durability. You can't have both. SPEED cuts well.



I agree, that 2 weeks is pretty short in the OP's case, but as I have said from the very beginning: top HD SPEED with HD POXY. The time you save by applying SPEED gives you the chance to pot Poxy on.
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I understand there is a trade off...



But to me if I am using Speed or any other AIO as a true "one step" I don't want to and shouldn't have to top it.



If I have to top it anyway I would just use HD Polish of M205 and the use a sealant as usuall. This way I would get even better cut and the same basic durability as topping Speed w/ Poxy. I guess this is why I personally really don't care for AIO's...
 
TroyScherer said:
If I have to top it anyway I would just use HD Polish of M205 and the use a sealant as usuall. This way I would get even better cut and the same basic durability as topping Speed w/ Poxy. I guess this is why I personally really don't care for AIO's...
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I agree, if you are doing two steps anyway might as well go polish and poxy or whatever your favorite LSP is.
 
To me, I find that HD Speed makes the surface glossier(and slicker) then HD Polish. Anyone else notice this difference?



Also, has anyone tried using Speed just as you would a stand alone sealant? Meaning spread/apply with a finishing pad (low speed). I would assume that it would increase durability.
 
David Fermani said:
To me, I find that HD Speed makes the surface glossier(and slicker) then HD Polish. Anyone else notice this difference?



Also, has anyone tried using Speed just as you would a stand alone sealant? Meaning spread/apply with a finishing pad (low speed). I would assume that it would increase durability.
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Speed definitely offers a more glossy look, a wetter look I would say. I've applied Speed as I would KAIO and as just a sealant type of product, and the durability and shine seems to be the same, there's no difference.



I think 3D may want to look at how it markets Speed, as it is confusing in what it claims versus what it actually does.



From the 3D website:





Name: HD Speed - All-In-One Polish/Sealant



Description: "HD® Speedâ„¢ polishes and protects the painted surface in one easy and simple step. Removes light to moderate surface scratches and swirl marks. This remarkable product restores color, depth, and gloss while adding a long lasting wax to the surface."



"Great for those who want quick paint correction with amazing paint protection."



Instructions: "Shake well. Best applied using a DA Random Orbital Polisher, may be applied by hand. Set the DA Random Orbital Polisher on medium to high speed with a polishing foam pad apply a thin layer of product over the entire painted surface. Apply in a cool dry place. Easy on and easy off removal. Just use a clean dry micro fiber towel and buff product off by hand to a deep, high gloss finish."
 
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