Hd polish

[umi000]

Note that when using KSG, I would do a whole minivan, including all the jambs/etc. with *FAR* less than one ounce. I still have a lot of KSG left from the original bottle I bought over a dozen years ago...and I would apply 6+ coats to large vehicles and to many sets of wheels (in other words, I used it a *LOT*, and I also knocked it over a few times, spilling quite a bit).



EDIT: Here's how I do KSG- I hold the applicator over the top of the bottle and shake it, depositing one drop of product on the pad. Repeat until the pad is just slightly moist with KSG. Apply to panel, so thinly that I can't see it; I go by feel and as soon as the pad starts to "grab" instead of "sliding", I again hold it over the bottle and apply maybe five or six more drops. If, at any time, I can see the KSG on the panel after its dried, I figure I used way too much. I do the whole vehicle before buffing off, with the exception of trim (which I WOWO). When buffing off, I fog the surface with my breath- the moisture makes it buff off easier and helps me see what's been done/hasn't. /EDIT

On our local detailing forum, we have a number of people who transfer some of their KSG to a syringe, and apply, as you mentioned, using a few drops on the applicator per panel - kind of how people apply Opti-Coat, I imagine

 

[adeptauto]

Skip HD UNO and go right for HD CUT. Super easy to work with and leaves a very nice finish behind. HD Polish after is all that is need to perfect your paint and maintain it.

What he said! HD Cut followed by HD Polish is the way to go!

 

[SSizzlin']

It seems as though HD Polish needs to be worked for a bit. If not, it's not the easiest to remove.

 

[imported_J504]

Does any else having dusting issues with HD polish? I got some on a trade, so im not sure how old it is. Its really thick. But I do love the results from it, its my go to final polish. Just wondering if there was ever a tweak to the formulation?

 

[David Fermani]

There shouldn't be any dusting unless you have applied too much product, worked it too long or haven't cleaned your pad. Can you explain the process you use as far as prime, clean, reapply, work time.....

 

[imported_J504]

I put 4 dime size drops on a fresh pad and do about 4-5 passes and repeat. I will rub a cotton towel into the pad after 3 or 4 applications. I thought I read somewhere to not prime the pad with Hd polish? Work time is fairly short, but wipe off has always been very easy. Just dusts way more then I expected.

 

[pwaug]

I put 4 dime size drops on a fresh pad and do about 4-5 passes and repeat. I will rub a cotton towel into the pad after 3 or 4 applications. I thought I read somewhere to not prime the pad with Hd polish? Work time is fairly short, but wipe off has always been very easy. Just dusts way more then I expected.

I use 4-5 pea size drops for my initial section and then 2-3 pea size drops for each section after that--clean the pad after every other section with a denture brush and MF towel --- use four pads per car and have had no dusting. Work time seems to be long to me.

 

[jmsc]

Used HD Polish for the first time yesterday/today using PC. Had the same issues as J504. I used pea sized drops. Used 1 spritz of water on pad. Work time was short. Breakdown was fast. 1 pad per panel or panel + 1/2 due to pad turning dirty quite quickly. Never saw the dust till I finished and saw it everywhere under halogen, especially in all the door jams. I thought this was dust free? Removal was very easy. Final gloss was on par with 85RD.



Will redo some panels again using less product and see what happens. Maybe move the PC faster thru the panels?

 

[Thomas Dekany]

No spraying the pad with HD POLISH. Why did you do that? Humidity will be your enemy with HD POLISH.



What speed and pad did you use? What color car and make? Year?

Used HD Polish for the first time yesterday/today using PC. Had the same issues as J504. I used pea sized drops. Used 1 spritz of water on pad. Work time was short. Breakdown was fast. 1 pad per panel or panel + 1/2 due to pad turning dirty quite quickly. Never saw the dust till I finished and saw it everywhere under halogen, especially in all the door jams. I thought this was dust free? Removal was very easy. Final gloss was on par with 85RD.



Will redo some panels again using less product and see what happens. Maybe move the PC faster thru the panels?

 

[jmsc]

1. used water like I always do with any polish. did not have Touch.



2. 400 speed, LC white and orange. 2011 Honda Grey Metallic.

 

[Accumulator]

.. used water like I always do with any polish. did not have Touch..

Huh :think: I sometimes do use a bit of water or QD with certain products, for certain situations where I have a specific reason for doing it, but it's pretty rare. I don't mean this as a :nono but I just never thought of it as something that'd be done as a matter of course.

 

[pwaug]

Well the weathermen were wrong again--the temperature dropped some, but it sure didn't seem less humid. In any case polished the Passat Wagon with HD Polish-- 4 passes on Speed 6 on Groits--then 2 passes on 4 with orange B&S pads--used 4 pads--cleaned often--rotated between pads after each panel to allow for cooling--4 pea sized drops to prime then 3 drops per section after that. Didn't spray pads with water or Touch--no dust. But, don't know how some of you do this so fast--I was moving right along with few breaks and it took me 6 hours just for the polishing--did the prep work and taping yesterday.

 

[David Fermani]

Not only will I post instructions here, but will work on a dedicated tutorial as well.



**Take a fresh, clean pad of your choice. Again, if this pad hasn't been completely cleaned prior to use, old product residue could still be in the pad and cause dust to fly everywhere. Very important to get this off on the right foot.



**(initial application/prime)Apply 4-5 small drops of product throughout the outer edges of the pad. This doesn't mean the center and this doesn't mean to use water, QD or anything else.



**On medium speed (speed 4 or 5 on a GG for example) work the product in a 2 by 2 foot area using slow arm speed and moderate downward pressure.



**Make 2 to 4 passes. A pass is considered 1 back and forth and 1 up and down movement.



**Wipe & inspect



**Clean pad with either a firm pad brush, compressed air and/or towel.



**For reapplication, apply 3-4 more drop on outer edge of pad.



**Swap to fresh pad after 2-3 full sized panels or when pad begins to be over-saturated with product.







NOTE:

*This product does not break down. You don't need to work this product very long due to the non-diminishing abrasive technology. If you make too many passes, the oils will dry up and dust could result. If you don't clean your pads after each pass session, dust could result.



*There isn't a need, nor was this product designed to be used with water, QD or any other liquid to assist with this products performance.



*Keep your bottle closed after use. Store in a cool, dry environment.



*****IMPORTANT*****

*DO NOT overly prime pad.



When using HD Polishing compounds in sunny, outdoor or hot environments/surfaces:

1-Use a little more product

2-Work smaller sections/areas

3-Clean pads well/frequently

4-Be mindful of long work times

 

[pwaug]

but will work on a dedicated tutorial as well.

Great idea!!!!



This is the one thing lacking from the HD product line. There is no place to go for a new user to get information on how to get the best performance from HD polishes. I've seen many posts over the last couple of years on other forums where someone trys a HD polishing product, has a bad experience so bad mouths the product only to find they have primed the pad in the conventional manner spreading product to cover the entire pad then adding more product to begin polishing.

 

[pwaug]

4 passes on Speed 6 on Groits--then 2 passes on 4 with orange B&S pads--used 4 pads--cleaned often--rotated between pads after each panel to allow for cooling--4 pea sized drops to prime then 3 drops per section after that.

I always thought one pass was up/down then the second pass was side to side, but considering David's explanation "A pass is considered 1 back and forth and 1 up and down movement" then I really did a total of 3 passes.

 

[Accumulator]

The term "pass" can sure mean different things, depending on who's using it! Always good to clarify what one means.

... don't know how some of you do this so fast--I was moving right along with few breaks and it took me 6 hours just for the polishing--did the prep work and taping yesterday.

If it's any consolation, I can easily spend that long, or even a *LOT* longer. OK, guess that means I could never cut it (efficiency-wise) as a Pro, but I'm *not* a Pro :grinno:

 

[Thomas Dekany]

Excellent!!!



The only thing I would add is that the different density of the pads require different amounts. Stiffer the pad, more product it needs.

Not only will I post instructions here, but will work on a dedicated tutorial as well.



**Take a fresh, clean pad of your choice. Again, if this pad hasn't been completely cleaned prior to use, old product residue could still be in the pad and cause dust to fly everywhere. Very important to get this off on the right foot.



**(initial application/prime)Apply 4-5 small drops of product throughout the outer edges of the pad. This doesn't mean the center and this doesn't mean to use water, QD or anything else.



**On medium speed (speed 4 or 5 on a GG for example) work the product in a 2 by 2 foot area using slow arm speed and moderate downward pressure.



**Make 2 to 4 passes. A pass is considered 1 back and forth and 1 up and down movement.



**Wipe & inspect



**Clean pad with either a firm pad brush, compressed air and/or towel.



**For reapplication, apply 3-4 more drop on outer edge of pad.



**Swap to fresh pad after 2-3 full sized panels or when pad begins to be over-saturated with product.







NOTE:

*This product does not break down. You don't need to work this product very long due to the non-diminishing abrasive technology. If you make too many passes, the oils will dry up and dust could result. If you don't clean your pads after each pass session, dust could result.



*There isn't a need, nor was this product designed to be used with water, QD or any other liquid to assist with this products performance.



*Keep your bottle closed after use. Store in a cool, dry environment.



*****IMPORTANT*****

*DO NOT overly prime pad.



When using HD Polishing compounds in sunny, outdoor or hot environments/surfaces:

1-Use a little more product

2-Work smaller sections/areas

3-Clean pads well/frequently

4-Be mindful of long work times

 

[imported_J504]

Its okay pwaug. It takes me that long also and I still cant believe how many members get done so fast lol. Just picked up a rupes and im excited to try out HD polish as a 1 step with the rupes



Thanks David Fermani. I'm glad there is finally a set of directions we can refer to for HD polish.

 

[DazzleFX]

I have HD Uno and just got HD Cut, Polish & Speed. Hoping to learn how to properly work this product line so glad to see reviews and discussion here. I am also learning I could have skipped on Uno. Since I have it I will find some use for it.



Regarding HD Polish what is the proper way to prime the pad? Should it be primed at all or just apply pea size drops and go right to working it in passes? I have Buff & Shine Microfiber pads and their foam pads in orange, white, green and black. I am thinking white or green with polish. Also have Hydrotech Tangerine and Red. I am thinking of using HD polish on my 04 530i which has fairly good paint condition with minor swirls and defects.



UPDATE: just watched Barry Theal's review on YouTube and saw how he primed it on a MF pad.

 

[kappy]

Not only will I post instructions here, but will work on a dedicated tutorial as well.

**Take a fresh, clean pad of your choice. Again, if this pad hasn't been completely cleaned prior to use, old product residue could still be in the pad and cause dust to fly everywhere. Very important to get this off on the right foot.

**(initial application/prime)Apply 4-5 small drops of product throughout the outer edges of the pad. This doesn't mean the center and this doesn't mean to use water, QD or anything else.

**On medium speed (speed 4 or 5 on a GG for example) work the product in a 2 by 2 foot area using slow arm speed and moderate downward pressure.

**Make 2 to 4 passes. A pass is considered 1 back and forth and 1 up and down movement.

**Wipe & inspect

**Clean pad with either a firm pad brush, compressed air and/or towel.

**For reapplication, apply 3-4 more drop on outer edge of pad.

**Swap to fresh pad after 2-3 full sized panels or when pad begins to be over-saturated with product.


 

After the polisher is turned on, should the polish be spread throughout the section first, or is it better to just start with the first section pass?


 


Also, did you ever finish the tutorial, and if so, can you provide a link?


 


Thanks.