Hazing after PB SSR2.5?

[HondaMan]

Why wouldn't you use ssr 1 on a new car? That is exactly what I'd do.

I don't want to use any SSR -- or even the PC at this point -- because the condition of the (new) car paint is such that I think it's more likely I will NOT improve on the "look" using those items.

Now, for mom's 10-year old 1994 Camry that was never taken care of, I noticed a big improvement. Ditto dad's 3-year old Mitshubishi Galant.

I need to get better with the PC but will eventually use it on the Civic. Sure as heck don't want to experiment with a Corvette when I get back into that! lol

I hope that Poorboy has another Detailing Day in '05 that I can attend. I need to see someone who's good at using a PC 7424 do all the different steps, SSR'ing, polishing, maybe even applying AIO/SG/EX-P with the PC. I couldn't even get the elastic polishing pads that go over the pads with the Sonus line....so I did that step by hand a few months ago.

 

[Rob Tomlin]

Interesting. I have used SSR2.5 with a LC cutting pad on two vehicles in the last three weeks. Much to my surprise, this combo did NOT produce any noticeable hazing. The paint almost looked good enough after the SSR2.5 to go straight to a sealant/wax. I did go over it again with SSR1 on one vehicle, and AIO on the other, both with excellent results.

 

[Thomas Dekany]

man, is glaze and polish the same? I bought SSR2.5 and vm and EX-P hopefully to replace the other steps I use.

man I am even more confused. This is what I have.

s100 wax
s100 pre cleaner
Meguairs 3 step ( hate step 1 and 2, step 3 is ok)
EX-p
VM
SSR2.5
Mothers Pre cleaner
3m swirl mark remove for dark cars
3m compound
Porter Cable 7424
Orange LC pad
White LC pad
Black LC pad
white pad that came with pc

What I am trying to do is remove the swirls/ webbing ( whatever you call it). Then I want to polish the car and then put a sealer on it that will last for a couple of months. I do use quite a bit of Eagles quick and shine between washes. I like to use it after washes because it gives my car a nice pop.

Pre cleaners are polishes in general.

You can do ssr2.5 with white (my choice) or orange pad (speed 6) and follow with 3M SMR or s100 pre cleaner white pad (speed 5) and a sealant or x2 with gray pad
that is it.

 

[Thomas Dekany]

do i use that to remove the hazing? I would prefer to remove the hazing instead of covering it up. Also what about the s100 pre cleaner. I thought I was suspose to use that before the ssr2.5.

should it be ssr2.5, precleaner, vm, ex-p?

sorry guys for being a rookie. I have done tons of reading I just dont want to go out a buy every combonation. I thought I had selected the best swirl remover, polish and sealer.

out of what you have

most aggressive ssr 2.5 (STEP 1)
less aggressive - any pre cleaner (STEP 2)
then a wax or sealant

BTW< you have very good products, no need to buy more - just use what you have.

I liked Meg's step 1 and 2 by hand - good stuff.

 

[Thomas Dekany]

I don't want to use any SSR -- or even the PC at this point -- because the condition of the (new) car paint is such that I think it's more likely I will NOT improve on the "look" using those items.

Sorry you are wrong - you can always improve the look of paint.

This was done by hand on a 4 months old BMW 330i

- Q&EW
- Autopia clay
- AIO
- IHG
- AMINO UV Polymer wax

after

 

[zesty-man]

im with tdekeny on this one... even if your car is new, it will look considerably better with a clay and a good polishing and sealing....

 

[General Lee]

I get hazing too if I work ssr 2.5 in too long. Actually, going over it again and just working the product in a little the 2.5 will remove the hazing as well. Any pre cleaner/polish will get rid of hazing. The white LC polishing pad and ssr2.5 is very effective.

I have used 2.5 only once so far and I got hazing w/ a white CMA polishing pad. It seems the main reason for the hazing is not working 2.5 enough. Are you saying you can get hazing by working it too long. Whats the best way to tell if it is worked enough before hazing occurs?

 

[Josh]

the 3m machine glaze should remove your hazing. It removed some nasty hazing i got from a rubbing compound on a bright red so... it should work for you.

 

[Dewey325]

Yea you have great products- Use the 2.5, if it hazes go to a softer pad and do it again
then the VM, then the EX-P You should love the results. The only thing I do is add a Polish between the 2.5 and VM. I use 1Z einszett Paint Polish. Then if you want to get fancy top the EX-P with s100! I like Natty's better than s100 but since you have s100 it will work fine.

 

[Scott P]

The other question you asked VM for a one step? NO it has no protective qualities. It is a great glaze though!!!

Actually, that's not quite true. VM does have some wax in it. It isn't the best choice for a one step product, but it can play that role if it needs to.

 

[HondaMan]

im with tdekeny on this one... even if your car is new, it will look considerably better with a clay and a good polishing and sealing....

No, I've been detailing....just haven't used any SSR's on my magnesium metallic Civic or the PC 7424. I can't SEE any microscratches or marring or swirls, either...they may be there, but if I have to look at the car under a garage light at a certain angle with my head pointed a certain way to see them, is that something I REALLY need to risk making worse with even a mild abrasive??

Again, guys, I'm a novice -- I just joined this site in July -- so the chances of me (1) wasting my time and not making the car better or (2) making it worse, are probably pretty high.

I am regular detailing. Last week I washed it, then followed with AIO and 3 coats of SG. The car was clayed in August. I have Sonic Acryllic Spritz for the winter, PB S&W, and have EX-P'd my windows/wheels. Believe me, I know the car looks better with detailing, I'm just not bothering to use the SSR's or the PC on the car just yet.

 

[Dewey325]

Actually, that's not quite true. VM does have some wax in it. It isn't the best choice for a one step product, but it can play that role if it needs to.

Ok My bad, but IMHO it really would not make a good one step, the protection must be minimal, I would think?