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Any one have any comments or actual experience with this?



I know that some believe that carnauba repeatedly applied (to maintain it on a finish) will "yellow" a white finish over time, while others don't subscribe to that thought.



Anyone have any personal experience either way?



Thanks.
 
I do personally believe in the "yellowing" effect as I did experience it over years of carnauba use. Dark Red + yellow = a orange redish color, which is exactly how my finish looked. But since I didn't have anything to compare it too until AFTER it was removed, I thought it was just the normal coloring of my paint. After it was completely stripped, and Zaino applied, my Red took a much deeper and redder look, the TRUE color of my paint. I'm not saying that Zaino is the only product that shows paint's true color, that was just my experience going from one system to another. So, yes, I do believe in yellowing, but most will probably never notice it...
 
For years I used caruaba ( i.e. #26) on my black cars. I always noticed that after stripping the wax that my cars appeared blacker. I never contributed this to the wax yellowing but after switching to a sealant on one car and changing the other to P21S ( a white carnuba blend ) that this yellowish hue is no longer present. :nixweiss
 
This effect is caused by the carnuba itself and the oils in carnuba. blend.



Most carnuba wax is yellow, in higher quality formulas it is refined or "bleached" white for better clarity. Imagine shaving a micro thin layer of wax off of a white candle. This represents the wax that is on your car over your paint. Is it transparent? Yes. Optically clear? no. This will "tint" your car a a slightly different color. The second part of the equation is the oils. The way they difuse and refract light gives the car a wetter, redder, blacker, darkening look.



None of this is bad, it all comes down to preference. Carnubas have been used for years and a lot of people are so accustomed to this look that an optically perfect paint finish looks unnatural to them. Use what you prefer. If you put a clean car next to a car with carnuba on it, a trained eye will see the slight difference in color.
 
For What It's Worth,



I had a nice discussion yesterday with John Hermann,

President of One Grand. He stated that Blitz doesn't yellow.



With 70 years experience I kind of believe him.



I've spent a couple of grand the past few years on detailing

products and I keep coming back to One Grand.



ZSHEEE! Maybe I should quit while I'm ahead!
 
I've put Blitz on horizontal surfaces as a topper, and noticed no difference in color appearance with the other panels that have just Klasse. That's with only one coat of Blitz though. Car is dark green metallic.
 
I don't know if the colors actually yellow. When my Accord is next to another one of the same color (bordeaux red-looks burgandy to me), the color of mine looks deeper and richer, not to mention shinier. The effect seems most pronounced on reds and blues in my experience, but I have never seen a white car 'yellow' and I had a customer that had a white Mercedes SL600 that I waxed with Meguiars #26 every two months for 3 years (I polished it every other time I waxed it). Still looked white to me with no yellow tint at all that I could see.
 
Over time, a carnauba will give a very slight yellower look to a white car. But this would require multiple and multiple coats of a carnauba. Since carnauba's are not that durable, most people will not notice this effect since its protection and appearnace fades after a month or so. But for us Autopians who like to apply two or three coats in three days, you might begin to notice this effect after a few months. Laters
 
I DO notice a difference in color on my red Camaro with Klasse vs. Waxes. The wax will give my car more of a "orange" look during the sunset or when the sun is not as bright. The Klasse deepens the red to a dark cherry red.



I like the Klasse red more but I like the Wax shine more so I'm kind of stuck in the middle, I'm going to use both this weekend and by the time I am done the sun will be setting (starting at 6 am) so I'll know how the combo works out then.
 
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