Gun Pricing Question

I would say worry less about the gun and buy lots of ammo (or learn to reload.)



cliche citibank comment but here goes,



Hi Point 9mm ~ $135

500 rounds of 9mm range ammo - $155

Targets - $2

Getting more X's than a guy with a $10,000 1911 - Priceless.



I don't even own a WC yet, but my Kimber is going out to them next month for ~800 worth of gun smith work. I guess I am not a target shooting guy. Its pretty much required to know how to hit an X at where I work (kind of a rivalry/competition for RSO's) but skills tested go beyond that, but everything starts with getting that sub 4" group at 25 yards with darn near any pistol. Heck at 25 yards a Hi Point 995 carbine in 9mm can get ~2 inch groups off a rest, just have to worry about it falling apart before the magazine is emptied though, lol.



I am not aware of your skill level or want to assume it BUT everyone needs ammo and lots of it. I have about 5K rounds in storage and find that not to be enough. I go through about 1K rounds a month to make sure I still have and work on the skill of shooting.



Accumulator - I prefer combat oriented guns and don't want a rimfire to go "click" LOL. I know and understand the purpose of the .22LR rimfires for target but I might as well just train with my carry gun. My Glock 19 has logged more rounds than all my other guns combined X2.
 
JasonC8301 said:
..Accumulator - ..I know and understand the purpose of the .22LR rimfires for target but ... My Glock 19 has logged more rounds than all my other guns combined X2.
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Yeah, same with me and my wife..we've gone through a zillion rounds of .45 hardball and maybe a few boxes of .22. I replace the recoil spring in my Govt. model more often than I clean the rimfires :chuckle:



Still, I understand Eisenhulk wanting to play with something different; I've thrown a lot of $ downrange making noise with my D/A revolvers just because I *like* 'em.



Eisenhulk wants to do some target practice for fun, hey, that longslide Baer should be great for that. But yeah... .45 match ammo is a little pricey and that gun would be a lot more fun with *that* load than with hardball.



Heh heh, if he spends enough time with that Baer he might want to rethink the H&K carry gun :D
 
Accumulator, I pretty much stopped playing with DA revolvers when I fired a SW 340PD scandium model with full house .357 mag rounds. That was not fun, lol.



It also depends on your sources. I get 9mm for a very sweet deal in which I can go do 1K-2K rounds in 3 days for a course on shooting or just for fun, lol. So I am a bit bias. 25K + through my 19, 8K on the dot for my HK USP compared to only around 3K for my Kimber 1911.



It really is up to EisenHulk. $1450 is a pretty penny but why not right? My Kimber was ~$1100 and I am gonna put ~$800 more into it. I guess the next pair of Aldens just have to wait, LOL...
 
JasonC8301- Oh, just get me going on people shooting magnums in J-frames, let alone the fly-weight ones :nono



And yeah, nothing like putting a few thousand rounds through a piece over a few days of concentrated training :xyxthumbs



Eisenhulk- So...did you shoot it? Buy it? Now you have me all curious!
 
Accumulator said:
Oh, just get me going on people shooting magnums in J-frames, let alone the fly-weight ones :nono
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Accumulator,



I'm curious, why is it a nono to do this? I ask because I own the same gun JasonC8301 was referring to. It's a S&W Performance Center 340PD, and is rated for .38 special, .38 special +P, and .357 Magnum (above 120gr. only). I have shot this gun with all three types of rounds, and other than being a sheer beating to try to shoot the .357 mag., I didn't see any inherent danger in it. In the end, I have chosen to just shoot a standard .38 special round in it, but what is your opinion on the mag's? Have you found them to be unsafe for any reason, or just not worth the extra roughness?
 
I'm STILL thinking it over. I'll keep you updated.





Accumulator said:
JasonC8301- Oh, just get me going on people shooting magnums in J-frames, let alone the fly-weight ones :nono



And yeah, nothing like putting a few thousand rounds through a piece over a few days of concentrated training :xyxthumbs



Eisenhulk- So...did you shoot it? Buy it? Now you have me all curious!
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EisenHulk said:
I'm STILL thinking it over.
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Did you get a chance to try it out? Might oughta put some rounds through it just to make sure it's not a "story-gun".



JDookie said:
Accumulator,



I'm curious, why is it a nono to [shoot hot loads in light J-frames]? .. I have chosen to just shoot a standard .38 special round in it, but what is your opinion on the mag's? Have you found them to be unsafe for any reason, or just not worth the extra roughness?
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No, no..not a matter of safety at all. I have complete confidence that the gun can handle the beating. Yeah, it's the roughness; it's the *shooter* I'm thinking of, or rather, where those rounds are likely to end up.



Most people can't shoot their snubbies worth [anything] to begin with, and when you add in hot loads (the muzzleblast as much as the recoil) they get even worse. The idea of all those CCW permit holders walking around with guns they can't hit the broad side of a barn with (in real life, against real people, with no eyes-and-ears on) makes me almost as nervous as the bad guys.



Yours truly used a...uhm...oh [shoot] brain-pause...the stainless version of a S&W Centennial.. (642 maybe?) during simunition/adrenal stress training and did well enough to feel OK pontificating about this stuff ;)



Disclaimer: to those who *can* shoot 'em with hot loads: congrats, more power to you; but remember that you're the exception. And if you ever touch off a magnum indoors without protective gear you're gonna remember it.
 
No, not yet. I'm going to stop by there this weekend to see if I can do just that.



[quote name='Accumulator']Did you get a chance to try it out? Might oughta put some rounds through it just to make sure it's not a "story-gun".
 
I have shot a lot of .45 auto over the years, but quit shooting a few years back. I have owned 2 Les Baers, both Premier II's, and consider them to be fine guns. I do have a custom Jim Hoag longslide, .45 auto, blue over hardchrome, and I prefer a longslide over a standard 5". Little more oomph, quicker back on target, little softer on recoil, little less rise to it when fired. Standard .45 auto in 5" for carry, if I was to carry, which I do not. I am not much for purchasing used guns, though, in general. I would not take a Les Baer over a Ed Brown, but I would take a Les Baer over a Wilson. $1450 does not sound like much of a bargin though for a used Les Baer, but I have not been looking for several years (about 6 or 7) and am not familiar with what current guns bring on the market. Les Baer 1.5" accuracy guns are just that. They are made considerably tighter, to the point of malfunction, and their 1.5" accuracy guns are not guaranteed for reliability as the same 3" guns. Might want to consider Rock River arms, which are about the same gun, but a little less money. HTH
 
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