I am a LOOONG time AstroShield user. Since the mid 70's on many a fine sports car that I wish I had today. Current car is a 1982 Corvette with a metallic Charcoal 2 stage paint. I had about 40+ coats of AstroShield on it and, I need to say that it was really glossy, smooth, and I was quite pleased. I did want something a bit more *thick* but never found a series of products that gave me the same luster. Then I came across the multi-step products by Griots.:wow: I did an experiment on the hood. Took the pre-wax cleaner to it and stripped off all of the AS. Then clay-bar'd the hood and measured my success by the *stuff* on the clay bar and the hand-in-plastic-bag technique. Now very smooth, but always plagued by water spots. Took some #3 Polish from Griots and their Orbital Polisher to the hood. 2 passes and the water spots were gone as well as the swirls. Wiped the surface down with their Detail spray to get rid of any residue from the Polish and then followed up with 2 coats of their Best-in-Show Carnuba. The car hood popped! It looks 10 inches thick. :clap1: The luster and shine was amazing. AS gave a shine, and I was happy with it, but it never gave that thickness. I did the entire car with the same process this weekend. Very happy! A little goes a long way, as I soon learned. I use their speed-wax to help remove the dried Carnuba as it was somewhat difficult to remove. I do not work for, get any $$ for, or anything of the like with Griots. Just a pleased user that found something current that really works well. It is a process, as many of you know that results in this final look, not just one product, but I am sold. :har: