Grandma's Secret Spot remover

Hmm I would want to see a msds sheet.



It claims to clean a lot of things that require vastly different chemicals in other industries.



I'd be worried that it was a solvent, High ph (ie very caustic) or a high percentage hydrogen per-oxide. (45% or more) any of those 3 could cause serious harm to you, let alone your car.
 
The website claims it is non-toxic



"Grandma’s Secret Spot Remover® is Environmentally Safe, Biodegradable, Non-Toxic and Contains NO Chlorine or Phosphates"
 
LOL non toxic does not mean it will not hurt. uranium 235 is bio degradeable. after about 3 million years. but judging from the reviews and the actual website I am guessing it is a protien spotter, probably a simple enzyme system.



really should look at an msds.
 
for reference.



Neutral detergents make for (in general) poor cleaners, They make better specific spot removers.



alkaline cleaners make for great dirt and grime cleaners. but do very poorly on tanins, urines, and protien based soils.



Acidic detergents make for poor dirt removals, but do very well on urines, tanin, some protien based stains, and some food based dyes.



Enzymes are usually reserved for organics like foodstuffs, grass, and others.



Solvents, make for very poor detergents as they have almost no cleaning ability. However wehn combined with an alkaline detergent you will finde a combo that will defeat many oily soils found in cars. Apply the solvent to fiber first, work in with brush, then apply AK detergent.
 
Sure it is, it's been in the earth for billions of years. What i am getting at is they can say anything in advertising. untill you look at an msds sheet you really can not know the truth of their claims.



Like i said it is probably an enzyme based detergent rebottled from another manufacture. Don't let the grandma's secret story lure you in. there are dozens of top quality enzyme based spotters and cleaners out that will give you the same performance at a fraction of the cost.



I'll admit that if you ant to try it 3. bucks is not a bad price, but for 2 oz, that is a steep price per oz.



If your looking for a neutral, enzyme based cleaner spotter, or even a whole line of enzyme based products that will provide a msds.



i suggest bi-o-kleen. I've used their products professionally for years. top notch company. they can be ordered on the web.



http://www.bi-o-kleen.com/
 
Grouse said:
Sure it is, it's been in the earth for billions of years. What i am getting at is they can say anything in advertising. untill you look at an msds sheet you really can not know the truth of their claims.
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Ah, I see. They aren't obligated by law to post the MSDS on the website?
 
edited my post above, If you are looking for a recomendation of this sort try the bi-0-kleen bac-out.



I was un able to find it on their website. I think since they sell it as a laundry product and not a comercial product...



http://www.grandmassoap.com/



and another edit, I did not find their msds lis on bi-o-kleens website. However when ever i bought stuff from them in the past the msds was included. I'll fire off an email and see what response i get.
 
well that was fast. Bi-o-Kleens response to my question about the msds online.



Hello,







We actually do not have our MSDS sheets on our website. We are in the process of updating our site and they will be on there when the project is complete. You can email me and let me know which MSDS sheets you need and I will email you copies of them.







Thanks,







Stacey Yung



Customer Service



Biokleen



www.bi-o-kleen.com



360-576-0064 Phone



800-477-0188 Toll Free



360-576-0065 Fax
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Ya, to give more background I first used it on a latte stain that had soaked under a center console. First attempt with regular cleaners (folex, 303, etc) did not work; I let bac-out sit on the stain for 4 hours the next try and it completely kicked it's butt. No more stain, no more smell, happy customer.
 
bac-out's msds sheet

MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET



BI-O-KLEEN INDUSTRIES, INC



P.O. BOX 820689



VANCOUVER, WA. 98682



Telephone: (360) 576-0064 (800) 477-0188



Fax: (360) 576-0065



For 24 Hr. Emergency Call: INFOTRAC (800) 535-5053



Website: www.bi-o-kleen.com

















SECTION 1. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS





HMIS RATING



Health 1



Fire 0



Reactivity 0



PPE A



Product Name: BAC-OUT STAIN & ODOR ELIMINATOR



Chemical Name: Liquid Enzyme Mixture Health: 1



Chemical Family: Water base Cleaning Compound 0



Date Issued: April 26, 1993 Date Revised: Date Revised March 22, 2003

SECTION 2. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS





INGREDIENT CAS# % SARA TITLE III PEL TLV



This product contains water-base detergents materials not listed by the ACGIH as hazardous.



Components listed as a suspected carcinogen: None

SECTION 3. HAZARDS IDENTIFICATION





Health Hazards (Acute and Chronic):



Effects of Overexposure: TLV not established for product.



Primary Routes of Entry: Ingestion, Inhalation, Skin and Eye Contact.



ACUTE:



EYE CONTACT: May cause irritation.



SKIN: Not expected to be a hazard with normal use.



INHALATION: Not expected to be a hazard with normal use.



INGESTION: May cause nausea, vomiting, and/or diarrhea.



CHRONIC: Prolonged or repeated contact may result in defattying of skin. Persons with pre-existing skin disorders may be more susceptible to the effects of the contact.



MEDICAL CONDITIONS AGGRAVATED BY EXPOSURE: None reported.









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Bi-O-Kleen BAC-OUT Stain & Odor Eliminator



SECTION 4. FIRST AID MEASURES



Emergency and First Aid Procedures.



IF IN EYES: Immediately flush with large quantities of clean water for at least 15 minutes, lifting upper and lower eyelids occasionally. Get medical attention if irritation persists.



IF ON SKIN: Rinse exposed area with clean water for at least 15 minutes. Remove contaminated clothing. Launder contaminated clothing before reuse. Get medical attention if irritation persists.



IF SWALLOWED: DO NOT INDUCE VOMITING. Drink two glasses of water or milk. Never give anything orally to an unconscious or convulsing person. Get prompt medical attention.



IF BREATHED: Remove person to fresh air. If breathing is difficult, administer oxygen. If not breathing, give artificial respiration. Get prompt medical attention.



SECTION 5. FIRE FIGHTING MEASURES

FLASH POINT (PMCC): Not Flammable



FLAMMABLE LIMITS IN AIR: Not Determined.



EXTINGUISHING MEDIA: Dry Chemical, carbon dioxide, foam, or water fog. Class BC or ABC fire extinguisher.



SPECIAL FIRE FIGHTING PROCEDURES: Self-contained positive pressure breathing apparatus and protective clothing should be worn in fighting fires involving chemicals.



UNUSUAL FIRE AND EXPLOSION HAZARDS: None known.



HAZARDOUS DECOMPOSITION PRODUCTS: Not Determined For Product.



SECTION 6. SPILL OR LEAK PROCEDURES



Steps to be taken in case material is released or spilled: Use required personal protective equipment when entering spill area. Avoid entering spill area; spilled material may be extremely slippery.



SMALL SPILL: Release of small amounts to sanitary sewer is inherent with normal end use. Use appropriate absorbent material to absorb residual material and transfer absorbed material to containers for disposal.



LARGE SPILL: Stop spill at source using dam, dike or divert techniques to prevent spill from spreading. Salvage any free product for reuse, if possible. Use absorbent to absorb any residual material. Transfer into container for disposal in Class D landfill pending approval. Follow up with water flush.



SECTION 7. HANDLING AND STORAGE



Preferred storage is between 60 and 100 deg. F. Keep Container closed when not in use. If container is to be returned or recycled, make sure container is drip dry.















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Bi-O-Kleen BAC-OUT Stain & Odor Eliminator



SECTION 8. EXPOSURE CONTROLS, PERSONAL PROTECTION EQUIPMENT



Occupational Exposure Limits:



ACGIH TLV TLV(C) STEL OSHA STEL PEL



None established for product.



RESPIRATORY PROTECTION: None normally required under normal use.



VENTILATION Provide sufficient general and/or local exhaust during normal use.



PROTECTIVE GLOVES: For Prolonged Contact use Nitrile or Neoprene rubber gloves.



EYE PROTECTION: Chemical splash goggles recommended.



OTHER PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT: None normally needed.



SECTION 9. PHYSICAL AND CHEMICAL PROPERTIES



Boiling Point: Approx. 210 deg. F. (Water)



Vapor Pressure: Same as for Water (1)



Vapor Density: Not Available



Specific Gravity: 1.0



Percent Volatiles: Less than 1%



Evaporation Rate: Same as water.



Appearance and odor: Slight Amber Clear Solution. Mild Citrus Odor



pH: 7.5 ± 0.5



Solubility: 100% in water.

SECTION 10. STABILITY AND REACTIVITY

STABILITY: Product is stable



HAZARDOUS POLYMERIZATION: Will not occur.



INCOMPATIBILITY: Strong Oxidizing Agents.



CONDITIONS TO AVOID: Strong Oxidizing Agents.



SECTION 11. TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION



Substance Specie LD50



No Data Available product or ingredients.



CARCINOGENICITY: The NTP, IARC, or OSHA does not consider this product or its components



to be carcinogenic.



SECTION 12. ECOLOGICAL INFORMATION



None Available For Product



SECTION 13. DISPOSAL CONSIDERATIONS



EPA HAZARDOUS WASTE CODE: NONE



Product must be disposed of properly under Federal and State regulations for industrial wastes. Recommended disposal is incineration or Disposal in a Class D landfill of absorbed wastes pending approval. As delivered, this product when spilled, released or disposed of, is a non-hazardous waste as defined in RCRA regulations 40 CFR Part 261.



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Bi-O-Kleen BAC-OUT Stain & Odor Eliminator



SECTION 14. TRANSPORTATION INFORMATION



DOT PROPER SHIPPING NAME: Bi-O-Kleen BAC-OUT Stain & Odor Eliminator



DOT HAZARD CLASS: Not Regulated



DOT IDENTIFICATION NO. None



DOT PACKING GROUP: None



DOT RQ FOR PRODUCT: NA



DOT MARINE POLLUTANT: NA



EMERGENCY RESPONSE GUIDE NUMBER: None

CANADIAN TDG/WHMIS REGULATIONS:





TDG NAME: Bi-O-Kleen BAC-OUT Stain & Odor Eliminator



TDG CLASS: Not Regulated



PIN NUMBER: None



WHMIS: D 2 B



SECTION 15. REGULATORY INFORMATION

TSCA: The ingredients of this product are on the TSCA inventory.





SARA TITLE III HAZARD CATEGORIES

SECTION 311: ACUTE: YES CHRONIC: NO

SECTION 313: NONE



FIRE HAZARD: NO



REACTIVE HAZARD: NO



SUDDEN RELEASE OF PRESSURE: NO



PROPOSITION 65: NONE



STATES RIGHT TO KNOW



MASSACHUSETTS: NONE



PENNSYLVANIA: NONE



CALIFORNIA SCAQMD: NONE



EEC Classification: Irritant



This product, as delivered, is not regulated as a hazardous substance.



SECTION 16. OTHER INFORMATION



PLEASE NOTE! Use only as directed. Do not mix with other chemicals unless advised by supplier.
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I can also provide it for the laundry soap (powdered) and Traffic lane cleaner.
 
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