Toy_Cam_Ed
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Does glaze need to "cure" before applying wax? Btw, I'm using meg's pre-wax glaze.
Glaze and wax question
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Ron Ketcham
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No curing of glazes, they are just "fillers" in a hydrocarbon solvent system.
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Underdawg736GTC
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I'll add to Grumpy's reply. If you're using something like Meg's #7, don't let it dry or you'll break your arms trying to get it off! If it does happen, reapply another coat and quickly wipe off. This always worked for me and I remember hearing a saying that went something like "like removes like".
Toy_Cam_Ed
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So it's basically wipe on, wipe off? Thanks.
jfelbab
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IME, Meg's Show Car Glaze (#7) never really dries but kind of skins over. Break the skin and it is oily underneath. The oils will be absorbed by some paints especially older SS. I dealt with aging SS paint on my 1991 MR2 for years and the #7 really brought the paint back to life, albeit temporarily. On my medium red MR2 the glaze coupled with #26 delivered a great look. Depending on your cars paint age and condition, a glaze like #7 or RMG can be a good alternative to constant polishing. Reducing the need to polish frequently is not a bad thing, IMO, especially as the paint is nearing EOL and is starting to oxidize more rapidly.
I found that I didn't need to be anal about removing all of the glaze residue as the solvents in the wax would redissolve any remaining traces of glaze and it will buff off with the wax residue.
The glaze would make my SS MR2 paint look like it was still wet from the paint booth. I took to applying #7 immediately before a car show over #26 to achieve that wet look and I'd go over it with a QD after the show to remove it.
I found that I didn't need to be anal about removing all of the glaze residue as the solvents in the wax would redissolve any remaining traces of glaze and it will buff off with the wax residue.
The glaze would make my SS MR2 paint look like it was still wet from the paint booth. I took to applying #7 immediately before a car show over #26 to achieve that wet look and I'd go over it with a QD after the show to remove it.
Underdawg736GTC
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Yes, I would work the product into the paint for about a minute or two, especially if it's single stage as the polish will get absorbed into the paint. If it looks like it's starting to dry then wipe away and go at it again if you feel the gloss is not up to your expectations.
Toy_Cam_Ed
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Underdawg736GTC said:
My camry has a clear coat, so I'm assuming I won't have to work it in too much.
Thomas Dekany
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Should be pretty straightforward
Post pictures when done if you have a camera and some extra time please.
Post pictures when done if you have a camera and some extra time please.
Underdawg736GTC
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That's correct Buffer. If you are using #7, the results are so so at best with a clear coat finish. It was developed I think in the '40's or '50's and the formula hasn't changed much since...if at all IIRC (ie more geared towards SS finishes). With that said, you'd probably be better off with Meg's Ultimate Polish if you're going the OTC route, it gives a nice slick shine (at least it did on the wives metallic silver Saturn). I'm gonna try to get around using HD Polish on that Saturn this weekend, if it's as good as with my ambulance I did, I'll be ecstatic......probably the Mrs's too!!
Toy_Cam_Ed
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Underdawg736GTC said:
I'm using meg's Ultimate Polish pre-wax glaze.
Toy_Cam_Ed
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Thomas Dekany said:
Here they are:
Last but not least, a youtube vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-kXVObTs88 (switch quality to HD and go full screen. You may have to pause it and let it buffer)
After glazing, I was completely blown away by the level of shine. WOW is an understatement. I have never had a car look so good. I raise my glass to Meguiars.
Not bad for a 98, huh? (only 43,000 miles)
Thomas Dekany
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Beautiful!
What was the wax/sealant?
What was the wax/sealant?
Toy_Cam_Ed
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Thomas Dekany said:
Thanks. (my arms are killing me) I just washed it, blow dried it, and put Meg's Ultimate Polish on it. I finished it up with Butter Smooth wax. Previously, I had spent days rubbing out the swirl marks by hand.
Underdawg736GTC
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The Camry looks great Buffer! It truly is rare to see a DD from the last millennium with just over 40k in that kind of shape!
Two weeks ago I did my spring detail on my 2007 black S2K (including machine polishing). I've tried #7 a couple of times a few years, but wasn't quite sure whether I could see a difference or not, especially when I topped it with a wax. Anyway, this year I thought I'd try my unopened bottle of M81, after polishing the entire car with M205. One thing for sure, M81 is a lot easier to work with them M07. It wipes off real easy. No need to worry about "skinning" it. Did I see a difference in appearance? I don't know. I think I did. The car looked terrific. I topped it with Swissvax Smaragd and the car still looked terrific. The one thing I can say is that I received several complements from strangers in various parking lots during the following week.
So I honestly do not know if it's worthwhile to use one of Megs' pure glazes on clear coat paint. But given how easy I found M81 to be, I'll probably use it again next spring. It can't hurt and it may add just a touch more of wetness and depth.
So I honestly do not know if it's worthwhile to use one of Megs' pure glazes on clear coat paint. But given how easy I found M81 to be, I'll probably use it again next spring. It can't hurt and it may add just a touch more of wetness and depth.
Underdawg736GTC
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Now what I want to know is would an LSP be comprimised by M07 on a SS system? MY old partner has a red '66 mustang that is in some serious need of a makeover. I'm really unsure how I want to approach it due to it's age and don't know much history on it (was an EBAY find for his wifey's 50th..awwwwww that was nice of him!) All I know is that it's oxidised, swirled, has RIDS up the wazoo with some paint that's MIA, not extremely bad but it does have some nasty chips.
Akimel, you need to show off some pics of Luthien on here! I know on my black Focus, it might of added a small amount of reflection but being new at it I thought it was the bees knees! Now topping off with some M26 on the other hand....wow! Even though it lasted maybe a month or so at best, I was loving it.
Akimel, you need to show off some pics of Luthien on here! I know on my black Focus, it might of added a small amount of reflection but being new at it I thought it was the bees knees! Now topping off with some M26 on the other hand....wow! Even though it lasted maybe a month or so at best, I was loving it.
Toy_Cam_Ed
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akimel said:
Why not? The difference in shine before polishing/glazing and after was like night and day. I was very impressed with the shine ultimate polish gave.
Underdawg736GTC said:
Yeah I got lucky and found a little old lady that could no longer drive it. She only drove it to the store and church. But the paint was severely neglected when I got it. It sat around a hundreds of trees. Pollen, tree sap, and bird droppings really took its toll. It took a couple weeks to get it into decent shape.
Buffer_Wannabe said:
I was talking about the specific products that Meguiar's terms "pure polishes," such as M05, M07, and M81. Others in the detailing community term them "glazes." They have no abrasive qualities. They simply leave behind oil-based fillers. Whether a pure polish actually improves the look of clear coat paint that has already been abrasively polished (as my car was) is a matter of some debate. It probably varies from vehicle to vehicle. There's only one way to find out--try it and see.
Single stage paint systems are a different story. I'm told that when applied to single stage paint #7 can make a dramatic (temporary) difference. Why that is the case others more knowledgeable than myself will have to explain.
Meguiar's Ultimate Polish, on the other hand, is not a "pure polish." It is an abrasive finishing polish. It employs Meguiar's micro-abrasive technology. Hence it actually cleans the paint and removes imperfections and light swirls. It's designed to remove any haze left behind by Meguiar's Ultimate Compound. That's why you saw real improvement after polishing your car with it.
It looks and sounds like Ultimate Polish did a really good job on your car. Keep up the good work!
Underdawg736GTC said:
Underdawg, thank you for remembering the name of my car. I guess I've never put any pics of her here on Autopia simply because I know that my detailing work doesn't come close to Autopia standards. But for anyone who'd like to see her, take a look at "Luthien Enters her Vintage Years." I haven't taken any more photos of her since then, as I figure she'll never look as good as she did back then. But she's still looking good and I still enjoy driving her as much today as I did when I first bought her five and a half years ago.