Glaze and Sealant question?

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trueblueblood

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Well out of shear boredom I want to try a different combo on my car and since I don't have a PC I want to experiment with a glaze and sealant combo, topped with S100. I was considering Vanilla Moose and Poorboys EX-P topped with S-100. Anybody see any problems with this combo or any other suggestions for a glaze and sealant combo. Now for the second question when I top my car with S-100 every couple of weeks after I wash I'll have a couple water spots that I'll use QD to get off. Does S100 have any cleaning ability to get these few water spots or should I QD before topping? Thanks in advance for any help:up
 
I am using the VM and EX-P combo. It provides a very clear, and reflective look, wet too. I wouldnt top this with carnauba, which will deepen and darken it, cancelling out the EX-P. If you really want to top with a carnauba, just use EX instead of the EX-P.
 
Thanks Breakneck do you think topping would be based on color of the car, mine is a true blue with alot metallic flake do you think the S100 would work in that case. How does the EX-p compare to EX. Thanks again
 
I'm a newly converted fan of the old skool. #7 followed by #16 looks amazing on my maroon car. I use VM/EX-P on my white Jeep, but on the dark color, I'm going to stick with this new(old) method for a while:up



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Metallic flake--look at WG. It's simultaneously deep and reflective and somewhat silvery. That would look great and bring out that flake. EX-P would serve this purpose better than EX if you are comparing the two.
 
In my paint I have a pearl/metalic flake. I prefer the look of EX-P, it makes the metalic flake just stand out and provides the paint with some "pop." I used carnaubas, NXT, Klasse, S100, etc. The NXT and the carnaubas I have used tend to hide the metalic flake and darken the paint, although a touch more reflective they didnt provide what I was looking for. I havent tried WG so I cant comment on it, but since I have a metallic blue just as you do I would highly recommend EX-P.



Note: I forgot to dampen my applicator when applying EX-P, big mistake. DO NOT FORGET TO DAMPEN. And keep dampening as you go. This stuff can be a PIA to remove and spread without this step. Even then I found it totally different feeling than any other sealant/wax I ever used. Once you get the hang of it though, its a breeze to do.
 
Thanks breakneck I guess I'm gonna use the VM/EXP and see what it loooks like and see if I would want to top it. With EX and EXP do the looks differ or do they look similar? Thanks again I really appreciate the input:up !
 
EX is...different. It acts like a sealant, and looks like a carnauba. Its deep, reflective, and darkens a bit.



EX-P on the other hand is very clear. In fact, what I am finding is that EX-P is almost whatever you want to be. Let me explain:



If you put EX-P on a polished surface with nothing underneath you get a very very clear, wet look



If you apply over VM, it almost takes whatever is under it and amplifies it. VM darkens my paint slightly, very wet, not very big on depth, reflective. EX-P will compliment that.



I know it wouldnt bond, but for ***** and giggles lets assume it would. If you put a carnauba under EX-P, I bet it would look like a carnauba, just wetter.



I am tempted to play around. I currently have VM/EX-P and love it. I did a side by side test on my hood when I applied, one side was EX-P only, one side was VM/EX-P. The side with VM had a darker richer look, all the while looking very reflective and wet. I almost dont want to say this but the VM/EX-P combo almost resembled that of a carnauba only. Its kind of funky and hard to explain. I plan to try some carnauba moose wax over the EX-P just for fun to see what happens.
 
Well I guess I'm gonna go with the EXP instead of EX with carnuba. With the VM/EXP combo would you say that it still had the metallic pop you were talking about. Did you use any polishing before the VM? Thanks breakneck
 
Prior to vanilla moose the car was clayed and polished with DACP and a yellow cutting pad on my PC.



Yes, the metalic pops very much so with the VM/EX-P combo, makes the metalic/pearl "stand out"
 
You know what breakneck that Moose wax contains cleaners from what I was researching, cause I saw you mention topping it so I don't know how that would interfere with VM or EXP, but its part of a system so I assume they would be compatible, but DavidB did a review and said his experience was that they cacelled each other out? Any ideas? Also breakneck with DACP have you had any experience using it by hand, any tips or tricks? I'm mainly lookin at a glaze and sealant combo because I don't have PC yet and I want to experiment by hand before I spring for the PC!:) :):
 
Moose Wax is a cleaner wax, so yes, it would interfere

I am gonna use CARNAUBA moose wax, it contains no cleaners, its a straight protectant wax with a really wet look.

Go to www.clearkote.com and scope it out for yourself, they are different :xyxthumbs



I never have personally used DACP by hand, although I am going to soon. There is an area under my spoiler my PC cant go, yet it recieves light and I can see swirls so I will be trying to get them by hand. From what I hear the best method is with a terry applicator pad or a terry cloth towel work the product in a few directions and finish in the direction air flows over the paint. You want to work it until it is almost no longer visible, then remove the residue with a MF. Use a terry cloth to apply because it provides more "bite" when using by hand.



Contact scottwax with a PM. He does his detailing exclusively by hand, and his work is amazing. He uses DACP by hand regularly and can give a more in depth explanation of the process if you need it. VM works very well by hand as well.
 
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