Gilmour shampoo test

JJ_

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Hey guys I have re-posted this as the other thread was getting confusing to navigate and also I have another foam test which I am about to post, so I thought three seperate threads would be better.



Ok well as promised!



For the guys across the pond 1oz = 30ml , saves any of you having to google it!



Well, this started a few weeks ago, I pm'd steve (l200steve) to ask him how I figure out what ratio of solution to put in my old Gilmour. I did something like this ages ago, refer to Foam Gun test with various shampoos - Autopia.org quite some years ago! I drew up an excel sheet so that I knew exactly how much I should put in my Gilmour running at 1:10.



First up



Hyper Wash

150ml by calculation, 150ml for the foam gun

Dwell time 5 mins

Cleaning ability 3/5 (score out of five?)

Foaming ability 3/5

Dwelling 2/5



Hyper wash is the uber dilution ratio of all washes, it is thick in consistency and I used hot water in the gilmour to get a more manageable wash solution. It is quite a lubricated wash and cleans well, it is not the best I have come across but the price of the product is tough to pass by. Thin suds left after, not a lot to be honest, it works but it is mid range.



Spraying

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After Dwell

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Meguiars Shampoo Plus

68ml by calculation, 70ml for the foam gun

Dwell time 5 mins

Cleaning ability 3/5

Foaming ability 4/5

Dwelling 2/5



Lots of suds here, very lubricated wash, my choice for wet sanding and clay due to the thick wash and high lubricity offered here. Not quite as long dwelling bit of a let down, however, this does perform very well as a normal wash shampoo.



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Chemical Guys big and tar wash

30ml by calculation, 25ml for the foam gun

Dwell time 5 mins

Cleaning ability 5/5

Foaming ability 2/5

Dwelling 3/5



Bit of a wild card here, not a shampoo as such more of a stubborn mark remover, I decided to try this just for kicks, I took the strength down a notch as I didn't want to remove all the wax ! It actually performed better than some, very impressed. This would be ideal for the Pro or Hobby in the case that you have a heavily soiled vehicle, just sud it up and let it take the hard stuff off, since you would be restoring the dry paint anyway, handy size and not really a bad word against it.



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Well, this started a few weeks ago, I pm'd steve to ask him how I figure out what ratio of solution to put in my old Gilmour. I did something like this ages ago, refer to Foam Gun test with various shampoos - Autopia.org quite some years ago! I drew up an excel sheet so that I knew exactly how much I should put in my Gilmour running at 1:10.



First up



Hyper Wash

150ml by calculation, 150ml for the foam gun

Dwell time 5 mins

Cleaning ability 3/5 (score out of five?)

Foaming ability 3/5

Dwelling 2/5



Hyper wash is the uber dilution ratio of all washes, it is thick in consistency and I used hot water in the gilmour to get a more manageable wash solution. It is quite a lubricated wash and cleans well, it is not the best I have come across but the price of the product is tough to pass by. Thin suds left after, not a lot to be honest, it works but it is mid range.



Spraying

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After Dwell

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Meguiars Shampoo Plus

68ml by calculation, 70ml for the foam gun

Dwell time 5 mins

Cleaning ability 3/5

Foaming ability 4/5

Dwelling 2/5



Lots of suds here, very lubricated wash, my choice for wet sanding and clay due to the thick wash and high lubricity offered here. Not quite as long dwelling bit of a let down, however, this does perform very well as a normal wash shampoo.



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Chemical Guys maxi suds II

122ml by calculation, 100ml for the foam gun

Dwell time 5 mins

Cleaning ability 4/5

Foaming ability 5/5

Dwelling 4/5



Ok we have a draw, this product was outstanding, super foam, dwelled nicely, nice sudsy wash, nice lubricity a well rounded wash solution, this is an excellent bucket wash performer too. It dwells on the rounded edge which I like as more of the harder dirt is down there so it dwells longer on the harder dirt! Great.



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Chemical Guys Cirtus wash and gloss

122ml by calculation, 100ml for the foam gun

Dwell time 5 mins

Cleaning ability 4/5

Foaming ability 5/5

Dwelling 4/5



Its basically this easy, do you like yellow or pink, both the chemical guys products are excellent, the citrus may edge it on the fact that it is more glossy once it is rinsed and also it provides more suds on impact. So I would say if I had to choose this would be it!



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SIIIIMOOOOL Clear

166ml by calculation, 100ml for the foam gun

Dwell time 5 mins

Cleaning ability 3/5

Foaming ability 4/5

Dwelling 2/5



Ok so we have a top notch price here, good foam, good lube, nice fell to it, almost milky appearance, glossy, a very well rounded wash. I wasn't sure at first but the wash is certainly thick enough coming out of the bottle.



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Supagard Shampoo

203ml by calculation, 50ml for the foam gun

Dwell time 5 mins

Cleaning ability 3/5

Foaming ability 4/5

Dwelling 2/5



Ok the further I got into this test, the more I realised that the solution was too thick, I was using too much shampoo for my very very soft water. So I reduced it with pleasant results. Not a fantastic shampoo for washing but seemed pretty good on the gilmour, but it just died not much left here.



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1z Perls

36ml by calculation, 60ml for the foam gun

Dwell time 5 mins

Cleaning ability 4/5

Foaming ability 3/5

Dwelling 3/5



A good shampoo, nice and thick in the bottle, not much used in the gilmour compared to others, I was now experimenting with my results and being less scientific in my approach. This gave a nice foam and finished off with a nice gloss, not too different to say shampoo plus. Nice and lubed.



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1z Gloss

68ml by calculation, 60ml for the foam gun

Dwell time 5 mins

Cleaning ability 2/5

Foaming ability 3/5

Dwelling 2/5



A very thin wash, almost like CG bug and tar remover, nothing special, although I do like this as a wash, very nice to use.



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There ya go! Enjoy.
 
It was pretty good man, I had some Zaino on it so it faired ok. Used CG Blitz once I was finished just to top up, Ill probably use Colli at the weekend.
 
JJ,



I assume you're filling the jug up to the top with water, so are you using the 32 oz or 64 oz Gilmour? And do you have a copy of that excel spreadsheet available?
 
Nice write-up. Don't mean to change the subject, but where can I get those hand pump that is on the gallon containers? Some said Home Depot, but couldn't find them and the help there never heard of them.
 
regarding foam guns (never used one)-how does someone with hard water avoid streaking and such? I know not to wash in the sun, but even in overcast or at dusk, if I let soap dwell on my car like this it's going the soap/water is going to dry pretty quickly. This alone has kept me from getting a foam gun.



Loved the write up. Makes me want the FG even more.
 
dublifecrisis said:
regarding foam guns (never used one)-how does someone with hard water avoid streaking and such? I know not to wash in the sun, but even in overcast or at dusk, if I let soap dwell on my car like this it's going the soap/water is going to dry pretty quickly. This alone has kept me from getting a foam gun.



Loved the write up. Makes me want the FG even more.



take in consideration not only can it be used as a pre-soak, but you can use as you wash as well (two great benefits to help reduce marring/scratches). you can't do that with a foam cannon/lance. i don't regret purchasing my foam gun one bit...
 
BigAl3 said:
*bump* :) ...



I wonder how well the "let foam dwell" technique is working for people :think:



I suppose which shampoo is best depends on the technique being employed...I'm still using Griot's but I plan to try/switch to Optimum (their regular shampoo, not ONR ;) ).



IIRC, SuperBee364 is using the CG Citrus wash with his touchless pressurewasher technique.
 
BigAl3 said:
take in consideration not only can it be used as a pre-soak, but you can use as you wash as well (two great benefits to help reduce marring/scratches). you can't do that with a foam cannon/lance. i don't regret purchasing my foam gun one bit...



I admit when I first used the Gilmour II I'd foam, and wash the whole car 2BM all at once. Yeah, the soap dried. Even on overcast days and at night. My washes came out fine, but it just didn't seem right. :nono

This year I adapted :bigups to foaming the car, letting it dwell, then rinsing clean.

I then pick up with the 2BM and foam 2 or 3 sections at a time and rinse before any drying occurs.

A little more time and I have to fill the foam gun twice, but it seems a much safer wash method.
 
lol yeah I know, I always am a bit hurried. Yes all Shampoo will remove some LSP just the same as when you are washing.



You would normally foam to remove some contaminants before rubbing the mitt which may lead to long term body damage.
 
JJ_ said:
You would normally foam to remove some contaminants before rubbing the mitt which may lead to long term body damage.



And/or *while* washing, to provide constant lubrication and flushing ;) If I'm touching the paint with wash media, I'm spraying foamy output (if not actual "foam") at the point of contact.
 
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