Genuine Klasse?

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Bassinmax

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Anybody from Europe?

Have you ever heard of the German-born Klasse in Europe?

I've been trying to find such mother company of Klasse, just like we here found Dr. Wack for P21S, but got no result?

Only one product which is very similar to Klasse, here, www.carlack.de.

More comments are appreciated.:rolleyes:
 
The last I heard, attempts to locate Klasse in Europe came to nothing. Which is both unfortunate and very strange since the bottles say "Made in Germany" on them...



Have you tried a search either here for info or on the internet?



Anyone ever try asking Deckard? :nixweiss
 
I've "heard" but not confirmed that Klasse isn't actually made in Germany, but a company in the States and that the formula isn't the same as the original. End of story.



sorry...geez
 
I remember RonK saying that the cost of importing Klasse from Europe would be way to high to sell at its current price. My guess is that the formula is from Germany but produced in the USA.



I spent weeks trying to get to the bottom of this and ended up like some extra in 'All the Presidents Men'



Tracking down Klasse is like chasing 2 rabbits



Steven
 
MikeLS said:
... I've "heard" some other interesting tid bits about it too, that seem like they could be true considering the way the product (SG) works, but I'd rather not post up too much speculation. Take what I "hear" FWIW....



:)



Cummonnnn....

Say it!:confused:
 
it's imported by Klasse USA which is located in San Francisco (says so on the bottle)



Anyone in SF that can hunt them down - they're on Van Ness somewhere? I would, but I hardly ever go to the city except on random weekends. I try to avoid that city sa much as possible the cops seem to like my car and to give me tickets there.
 
That office in CA is a sales office, not an import yard, or manufacturing facility. KLASSE customer service is tough to hunt down and we may never know the real story. Interesting enough, KLASSE is not sold in Europe, or if so.....it's under a different name. What ever the case, its a product that is used by many with excellent results, and that should be the main concern.........
 
I don't think it's such a big deal. As long as comments have a disclaimer.... besides, I think the Archives already have lots of junk in them anyway! :p



I can't say I blame Mike for posting speculation, since we don't know a lot about Klasse in the first place and a lot of info (like usage :eek: ) is guesswork. LOL, now that I think about it, it's like an alien spaceship crashed on Earth, and we figured out how to use it, but not how or why! :D
 
Actually, no, Bill, I don't know where you are coming from. My original post was never meant as saying something "bad" about Klasse. In fact, I honestly can't see how anything I said there was "bad." It was neither insinuated nor implied that I was talking bad about Klasse, and like I said, I'm sorry you take it that way. All I meant was that I might have other details about the way the product works, but does that mean I'm saying it sucks because it works this or that way? No. There was no negativity in my original post, no bashing, and nothing bad being said about Klasse, because I have nothing bad to say about it. Period.



I generally don't worry about ruffling feathers as long as what I believe I'm posting is as factual as possible. But, I think I've done enough of that in the past, but it seems that even the slightest tid bit of info is misconstrued here. Yes, I realized I generalized my last statements and that's the way I wanted it, because I was honestly trying to prevent this from occuring, but as usual, it happens. I was mainly shedding light to others that info is out there if you dig for it. I don't have any more "inside info" or contacts than anyone else probably, but I am interested as to WHY things work the way they do.



I think the problem here is your thinking I am bad mouthing Klasse and this never was/is the case. I've used Klasse, I like Klasse, but I became more curious at one point as to why it works a certain way. I don't think I need to further defend something I never did in the first place (bash Klasse). So, I'm done.



:argue <-- This was what I was trying to avoid in the first place, but oh well....



Have a good one....



Mike

:)
 
Bill please dont post things like that.

It is nothing more than a flame, which for the most part is avoided on these boards.

You dont agree with it, great, ask him to elaborate or do not read it.

Nobody else had any complaints so obviously we didnt mind.
 
MikeLS said:
Actually, no, Bill, I don't know where you are coming from. My original post was never meant as saying something "bad" about Klasse. In fact, I honestly can't see how anything I said there was "bad." It was neither insinuated nor implied that I was talking bad about Klasse, and like I said, I'm sorry you take it that way. All I meant was that I might have other details about the way the product works, but does that mean I'm saying it sucks because it works this or that way? No. There was no negativity in my original post, no bashing, and nothing bad being said about Klasse, because I have nothing bad to say about it. Period.



I generally don't worry about ruffling feathers as long as what I believe I'm posting is as factual as possible. But, I think I've done enough of that in the past, but it seems that even the slightest tid bit of info is misconstrued here. Yes, I realized I generalized my last statements and that's the way I wanted it, because I was honestly trying to prevent this from occuring, but as usual, it happens. I was mainly shedding light to others that info is out there if you dig for it. I don't have any more "inside info" or contacts than anyone else probably, but I am interested as to WHY things work the way they do.



I think the problem here is your thinking I am bad mouthing Klasse and this never was/is the case. I've used Klasse, I like Klasse, but I became more curious at one point as to why it works a certain way. I don't think I need to further defend something I never did in the first place (bash Klasse). So, I'm done.



:argue <-- This was what I was trying to avoid in the first place, but oh well....



Have a good one....



Mike

:)



OK, I appreciate that. Thank you for clearing that up. :cool:
 
now that we've established there is some speculation, would it be out of line to ask you about the rest. i really am curious. i've spent lots of time trying to figure out klasse and i'm always up for some good speculation. the truth has to come from somewhere.
 
stanger99 said:
now that we've established there is some speculation, would it be out of line to ask you about the rest. i really am curious. i've spent lots of time trying to figure out klasse and i'm always up for some good speculation. the truth has to come from somewhere.



I'm getting a mental picture of Charlton Heston saying "Soylent Klasse is PEOPLE!!!" :D



Seriously, it's probably something mundane but negative, like speculation that it works by ever-so-slightly abrading or thinning the paint. But I'm curious too.
 
My bottle of SG says: "Manufactured and bottled in Germany for KLASSE."



So it sounds like Klasse is the American name for it. To me that reads like if it's sold in Europe (which it may not be), it isn't sold as Klasse. Perhaps some info can be garnered from the award listed on the bottle. European Association of Inventors Honorary Gold Medal 1973. :nixweiss



I got it as part of that Forum kit because I wanted to try Souveran (so the Klasse was basically free). It's neat stuff that I probably never would have tried otherwise. It's actually very useful around the house. I polished two brass candlesticks with some Brasso about three weeks ago. I then coated one of them with SG. It didn't look any different at the time, but now one is starting to get that initial yellowing as it oxidizes. I imagine in another month or so, it will be much more obvious. So in the future I think I will follow Brasso up with SG (except on copper-bottomed cookware).
 
Mike, give us a break please. Stop teasing everyone. This isn't 6th grade here.



You intentionally created a stir when you insinuated that you knew something about Klasse that others didn't. What kind of reaction did you expect?



Then you write two hyper-defensive posts which only make the problem worse. What was the point?



If you're not going to share your brilliant insights will all of us, why bring it up in the first place? All you do is throw fuel on the fire. Frankly, I think that's what you wanted in the first place but that's just my opinion...



Don't open the door just a crack for everyone then get snotty when others demand to be let in. All it does is create animosity. If you don't want to post speculation, keep your mouth shut.



BTW, you're not the only person with sources.
 
trismegistus said:


Seriously, it's probably something mundane but negative, like speculation that it works by ever-so-slightly abrading or thinning the paint.



I think Bill was probably right on the account that maybe I should not have posted the generalized info after I made my initial comments.



It's definitely mundane, but not negative. SG will not abrade or thin the paint, unless you are referring to AIO, which does contain a mild polish which most everyone knows. Seriously, there's no "dirt" on Klasse and I hope that's not the way it came across. It's a fine product, with a mysterious formula and manufacturer, that's all. ;) I like and use both Zaino and Klasse SG.



bret,

I never said I was the only one with "sources." In fact, I said I probably don't have any more than anyone else here. Additionally, I didn't post this to fuel a fire. My intention was to let people know that info is out there, that's it. Talk to people, learn more, ask questions, and you might get answers. Of course, that's gonna draw curiosity. I don't get some sort of sick fun watching people squiggle or beg for more, I just don't feel additional info is needed here and now, but that it's available. If a discussion comes up that's more informative than speculative on this issue, I'll probably jump in. I'm sure you know some stuff too, but I don't see you or anyone else giving it up just yet. It's not that important anyway....really. And, I never said my insights were "brilliant." It's always a pleasure reading your friendly comments...



Mike

:)
 
I normally don't jump into conversations like this but after reading all this I couldn't help myself.



Mike,

You've obviously been here a long time and provided a lot of helpful information but your last few posts are disappointing about Klasse information. I'm actually surprised DB hasn't jumped in and put a stop to this thread.



You seem to acknowledge that you have some information that isn't "freely" available and requires some digging around to get. Instead of the all the innuendo, why not just post what information you have. If it's redundant to what we already know, so be it. That happens everyday as new members come on-line.



Over this past year, several old timers have left and/or no longer posting - so the information you are hinting too may actually be new to most of the Autopia community.



I've always seen autopia as a place where fellow enthusiasts get together and share experiences, information and chat about the detailing market.



I have to agree with a post above, the way in which you present the fact that you may have some hard to find information and are not freely discussing a bit "childish" and reminds of some games that I played back in elementary school. Definitely something I wouldn't have expected from a Senior member of this forum.



Paco



P.S. Talk to which people? Ask which questions? Searching for Klasse in the board yields hundreds of posts. What questions are we not asking that we help bring forth some new information?
 
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