FK425 or Optimum Instant Detailer?

Well coming from a long time Quikshine user here is my take on this question...



I've been looking for a more cost effective QD. I've tried a few here and there and in my travels I bought OID thinking I've finally found what I was looking for. Especially seeing how I am a huge fan of OCW. So I went in and bought a gallon of OID. Mixed it up 3:1 like the bottle says. At first I was really impressed with OID. I used it as a Spray and Wipe product first on a car with light dusting. For that I find OID to be a great product. Here is where the downer for "me" comes into place. After the first use of OID I noticed that the windows of the car did not bead, in this case the GF's car is a 2008 TC with the glass roof. By the second week the windows didn't bead at all. And I did nothing different other than use OID instead of Quikshine. I also noticed some streaking, and heavier dusting than with Quikshine...



Now for FK 425. I used this product a few years and never really though much of it. Now that it has become a little more liked, I ordered some Pink Wax and asked for the sample of 425. To me 425 disappears into the paint like Quikshine, where as OID would usually streak. And the dust attraction is even less than Quikshine, and a night and day difference over the OID. The after 2 applications with windows bead just like Quikshine, if not better...



So in the end, coming from Quikshine I'm now switching to FK425. It covers everything I need it to. IMO I don't find OID to be in the same boat as FK425. It may cost a lot less, but I don't think it covers all of the bases "I" need it to cover. I'm going to order a couple of gallons right now.
 
The 425 vs. OID question is interesting.



I was/am long time fan of the 425. Then the first rave reviews came out on OID, and of course I became curious.



After using them side by side couple of times, I have to say that 425 still holds a VERY slight edge against the OID. BUT! It's not that simple. With OID you have a very nice concentrate. In order to lay down a nice coat of actives, you have to dilute it 3:1. But certain paints can be permeable, dry, etc., so OID can play up on them. Overdeposited active ingredients cause smearing, but you can avoid this by stretching the concentrate to 3.5:1 or 4:1. It won't be as slick, but it won't smear either. From this point of view, the 425 is a far more balanced product, with easier removal and less incompatibility issues.



Gloss is another question. 425 has a wonderful immediacy. You just wipe it on and bang, the gloss is already there. It cures a bit and further improves its look, too. OID's appearance is not that immeadiate. This was my main issue with OCW I, because I liked it when cured but the initial impact was not that high. This behavior is similar with OID, although in a lesser extent. OID is always best with 2 layers - and when these cure, it is one of the most fascinating looking QDs out there.



On a car the anti static difference is less pronounced (still noticeable though), but on a TV screen, 425 accumulates notably less dust than OID, and this is a deciding factor for me: the final overall nod goes to 425.
 
+1 on that Bence. My findings are very similar to yours in such that it does smear and takes a little more effort to wipe off any remaining residues. Thats easily fixed by diluting it more to ones own liking to make it more user friendly.



Gloss factor using OID is *different* for me. While it does make the surface seem somewhat more glossy and wetter looking, on *my* car it seemed to darken the paint a bit being that my car is a late model nissan and having s/s paint. I had to confirm this by doing a side by side comparison with 425. For some reason s/s darkens more easily than it does with those who have bc/cc types of paint. Even Ranney could tell the difference and my car is white!(got him hooked on OID though hehe). The only other QD ive experienced using and seeing that effect is with UQD. It does take time to supposedly *cure* and when it does its almost right up there with 425 IMO. But 425 as of right now is still my choice of QD since i prefer its reflective character over the *darkening* effect using OID.



Anti static properties using 425 are there from the start where as with OID its more and more pronounced as it cures which i didnt care much for. After its first application I noticed it seemed to attract more contaminants while driving around, not so with 425 but that can be remedied with a ONR wash. I have an unopened bottle of OID that ill be using before i use up my stash of 425.
 
jedovaty said:
fk425 has a slight learning curve on black ;)
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What's to learn, the spray or the buff? :D I haven't had any issues on multiple black vehicles, mine included.
 
Heh heh, I recently decided to just stick with FK425 instead of trying the OID, but I *still* read through this whole thread :D



I'm tired of looking for the Holy Grail in every product category...when I find something I like I'm now inclined to just stick with it (but note that this is coming from the guy who just tried, and now loves, 1Z Pasta Intensive, 1Z High Gloss, and FK1000p :o ).
 
Slickness is pretty important to me too, and in some cases a little more important than looks. One main reason I bought 425 was to use on wheels to lessen brake dust and make cleaning easier and so far it hasn't disappointed me in that area.



I'm sure OID is pretty good stuff, but with gallon containers of Quik Shine, 425, Poorboy's Spray & Gloss and a couple of others I'm forgetting OID is just gonna have to wait a while before I buy some. Hey, by then it might be a new and improved version. Maybe I can snag a sample of OID if I can talk my Lexington Buddy, EisenHulk, into buying some :grinno:
 
After having tried both a few times, I have to give the nod to OID. FK425 wins in the instant shine dept, however OID really lights up after a few hours of curing and has a much wetter, canauba look to it where FK425 is glassy like a sealant. What wins it for me though, OID looks great on trim. It makes my rubber and plastic darker, looks like it was treated with a protectant. FK425 does nothing for the trim. Neither are great cleaners in my book though.
 
Never used 425, but I go back and forth between Quikshine and OID. QS is more goof proof in application but OID is slicker and both have a rich, carnauba look.
 
I've had a bottle of OID and FK425 in my garage for about a year now. I have used them interchangeably throughout that time on Silver, Yellow, Pewter, and a dark metallic green.



I agree with many of the other comments in this thread, especially with regard to the tendency of OID to "smear" or otherwise not wipe away cleanly. 425 is more "goof proof" and wipes away cleanly and easily.



I also agree with the poster who indicated that OID tends to darken the paint slightly, and perhaps has a slightly more "wax" look to it than 425. FK425 looks a bit more glossy/blingy to me.



Overall, though, it is a close call, and I like them both. However, I still have an overall preference for FK425.
 
Rob Tomlin said:
I agree with many of the other comments in this thread, especially with regard to the tendency of OID to "smear" or otherwise not wipe away cleanly. 425 is more "goof proof" and wipes away cleanly and easily.
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Adding a bit more water to OID makes the smearing problem non existant for me. I like it 4:1.
 
yakky said:
Adding a bit more water to OID makes the smearing problem non existant for me. I like it 4:1.
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Sure, but at a price of slightly less gloss. This hobby is full of compromises, isn't it? :bawling:
 
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