Fishy smell....

Ok guys, I dont think we should be talking down the product so bad without first finding out what they are about. If you look on the turbowax website, it's actualy a legit sincere company that invests allot of time and passion into the products.



I'm on another forum and have seen a couple pics of some turbowax detailed cars, and they are impressive.



Lets not all forget the review that G35stilz did...



http://www.autopia.org/forum/detail...etail-complete-turbo-wax-lineup-reviewed.html



Looks like a pretty good product to me.



I just dont want everyone to bad talk a product before they actually try it themselves.
 
They are a legit company.



I remember when they didnt even have real labels lol. I have some friends on the "inside" with turbo wax. Sometimes I miss south florida
 
Brandon1 said:
Ok guys, I dont think we should be talking down the product so bad without first finding out what they are about. If you look on the turbowax website, it's actualy a legit sincere company that invests allot of time and passion into the products.



I'm on another forum and have seen a couple pics of some turbowax detailed cars, and they are impressive.



Lets not all forget the review that G35stilz did...



http://www.autopia.org/forum/detail...etail-complete-turbo-wax-lineup-reviewed.html



Looks like a pretty good product to me.



I just dont want everyone to bad talk a product before they actually try it themselves.
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I didn't see Sean mention anything about a correction product, or one that would fill to the extent that would be needed to create the pictures in the original post.



I can't call bs because I don't know the turbo-wax line, but I can say if you can get results like that by hand (and it isn't just a filler), then we're all out of business. :)



I may also consider changing my cars so they read "Kevin Hamill, Professional Automotive Groomer".
 
Tooo many variables in the pict's to validate it's the same car let alone someone was able to do that kind of restitution by hand ... with wax! I dismiss that claim altogether.

Why not take pictures like the rest of us on these forums, same shots, same angle, same lighting, same reflections, etc. That's just too speculative.
 
Picus said:
I didn't see Sean mention anything about a correction product, or one that would fill to the extent that would be needed to create the pictures in the original post.



I can't call bs because I don't know the turbo-wax line, but I can say if you can get results like that by hand (and it isn't just a filler), then we're all out of business. :)



I may also consider changing my cars so they read "Kevin Hamill, Professional Automotive Groomer".
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Life would be easy:woot2:



Now all we need are those good cloths.:rofl
 
Guys, someone from Menzerna could do the same thing and say that SIP did the same thing by hand. This guy was not affiliated with turbowax in any way i dont believe, so it's not like he was trying to sell a product, he was just stating thats the results he got. Maybe he was just pullin our chain.



I'm just saying dont knock it until you try it. You can read a claim about anything, but until you try it, you can not really knock that claim. Until then you are just speculating what you THINK are the results.
 
Saintlysins said:
Tooo many variables in the pict's to validate it's the same car let alone someone was able to do that kind of restitution by hand ... with wax! I dismiss that claim altogether.

Why not take pictures like the rest of us on these forums, same shots, same angle, same lighting, same reflections, etc. That's just too speculative.
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It was the owner of the car taking photos, so I didn't get all the photos I would have liked, from the angles I would have liked.



When I was first asked to groom this car, I wondered if I'd bitten off more than I could chew doing it by hand, but I love a challenge, so it was only done by hand. As you see from the first photo, the paint has to put it mildly, had not been looked after, more looked like it had been brushed with steel wool, so each step was a minor victory. I used the whole Turbo Wax range, including their fab cloths, as someone was asking. So that was the Shampoo, cleaner wax, as I didn't have one of the their Oxidation blocks then (I don't like to mix brands), Swirl Remover, and the finale the Wax.



Please don't flame, until you've tried, that goes for any brand, or concepts, or ideas. :)



I thought, we were all here to share ideas. ;) I maybe new to this particular forum, but I'm certainly not new to grooming/detailing.





Brandon1 said:
Guys, someone from Menzerna could do the same thing and say that SIP did the same thing by hand. This guy was not affiliated with turbowax in any way i dont believe, so it's not like he was trying to sell a product, he was just stating thats the results he got. Maybe he was just pullin our chain.



I'm just saying dont knock it until you try it. You can read a claim about anything, but until you try it, you can not really knock that claim. Until then you are just speculating what you THINK are the results.
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Cheers for the faith, much appreciated. :cool:
 
I don't think many people are knocking the product; we're just being skeptical. Of course without more candid pictures it's tough to say how much correction was achieved. I guess what *I* am saying is if you can take a hood that looks like picture one, use a cleaner wax, one swirl remover step, and wax by hand and get what we can only assume are very good results by the second picture, then I have not run into a line of products that could achieve the same results without doing serious filling.
 
Well I do say, the pictures are a little hard to belive, but I dont belive that is the fault of TurboWax for that as I dont think they had anything to do with the pictures.



I'm not trying to sound like I am affiliated with the company in any way (i'm not) but I do like to stand up for the "little guy". They dont have the reputation around here yet like the "big boys" do, and I think everyone had to start out in their position.
 
I'd like to know the process as I've actually done corrections by hand and they can turn out great just like as pictured, except it takes multiple polishing steps. You can't break down polishes as effectively by hand. M105 changes this and eliminates a lot of work but it's still a tough go by hand, but you're still polishing with a compound not a wax or aio.



How about a pictorial of the steps? I've shown people here how to shine shoes to a mirror finish in record time, whereas people used to believe that it took hours to spit shine a shoe a mirror finish. I've even created a new way to test how an abrasive behaves using two cd's, proving that M105 truly has the finest and most uniform particle size of any available polish, and that even the gentlest DC polish which people previously thought of as only filler, has abrasives in it. I definitely think out of the box and am willing to scientifically test a product completely unbiased. I have no qualms about praising such lowly products as Turtle Wax Premium Polishing Compound. So I'm not gonna knock a product til I see it not deliver on it's promises.



If you would like, send me a sample of the products and I'll put it through a complete battery of tests, document it, and post it on this site. If it's as good as you say I'm sure I can convince the great many of the people here to purchase these products if not then you only lose out on a couple bottles of polish. If this is some snake oil, I'll debunk it rather quickly and this site will rip Turbo Wax a new one and will probably seriously hurt sales as Autopia comes up rather high on google's search under polishes. So with a reputation on the line what's it gonna be? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
 
Sometimes we all get caught up in our interpretations and judgments and get so far ahead of ourselves we miss when the 'details' are presented.

This is a FOUR STEP PROCESS. (OK, three if you exclude the wash, but then the 'fab cloths' could be considered a step, kind-of :think: ) Although I can't even consider doing a three step process by hand with todays electric buffers/polishers :buffing: ... I also realize this changes everything as it's no longer a single-step process.

So ... I will give the benefit-of-doubt to BRONZEE who loosely outlined what he did.

Besides ... anyone who can do a 3 or 4 step process by hand to get those results certainly has the forearms, biceps, triceps and shoulder to also put a serious beating on my melon should we ever meet :nervous2: .

With 3 steps, it comes down to where I wouldn't bet against this post anymore. I just wish this clarity came a lot earlier, as none of us would have wasted this much time in speculation!
 
Saintlysins said:
Although I can't even consider doing a three step process by hand with todays electric buffers/polishers :buffing: ... I also realize this changes everything as it's no longer a single-step process.

So ... I will give the benefit-of-doubt to BRONZEE who loosely outlined what he did.

Besides ... anyone who can do a 3 or 4 step process by hand to get those results certainly has the forearms, biceps, triceps and shoulder to also put a serious beating on my melon should we ever meet :nervous2: .

With 3 steps, it comes down to where I wouldn't bet against this post anymore. I just wish this clarity came a lot earlier, as none of us would have wasted this much time in speculation!
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Hmm, maybe Kiwi girls are breed tougher than US guys then. :p ;). And thanks for asking, yes detailing cars by hand 3-4 stage, that doesn't even count the interior, or engine bay, does build strong muscles, plus you can see exactly what you are doing, each to their own. ;)



Anyway, happy families. :)
 
Regardless of the quality of Turbowax, the lighting conditions and photo angles of both pics are much too extreme to make any kind of judgment. As a matter of fact, there could have been absolutely no "grooming" done whatsoever and the photos would still show the same result. Angle and lighting are HUGE in photography. I'm sure Turbowax is a fine product but these pictures prove nothing.
 
mborner said:
Regardless of the quality of Turbowax, the lighting conditions and photo angles of both pics are much too extreme to make any kind of judgment. As a matter of fact, there could have been absolutely no "grooming" done whatsoever and the photos would still show the same result. Angle and lighting are HUGE in photography. I'm sure Turbowax is a fine product but these pictures prove nothing.
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Pretty much this is true if you look at the first picture the shadeypart of the hood looks pretty good
 
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