First time using my new Cyclo

No, I was using the correct amount of product. Just like you said, only about a quarter sized worth to start and then moved down to a dime sized dot. The problem here is that the dry *dust* that is produced with 3M PI II RC, which happens to be a lot, is more of a clay like substance than dust and when you use a flat pad, it has nowhere to go so it stays in the pad. This clay like substance just keep building up until it overloads the pad. Thanks to Accumulator, I now know that I can actually wash the pad out and put it back on the machine and keep working, which makes a world of difference. I am thinking that the vc pads are the way to go with high dust products like 3M RC, which is what I actually used on my PC to finish the job. One more thing I noticed is that if you try to use a speed setting that is too high for a particular product, it will force the product to flash too fast and thus begin to overload the pads with dust. I noticed that speed 6 on the PC was too much for 3M RC, and my pads starting overloading so I moved down to speed 5 and never had another problem. The Cyclo has a set speed, it's non-adjustable so I am thinking that maybe the Cyclo just operates too fast for a flat pad/compound combo. ???
 
I stopped using that PI II RC due to the dust and luck luster results I got from it. Did you try the PI III line with the Cyclo? I have it and will try next time I need to polish.
 
No, I haven't. I'm having good, consistent results with the PI II, but you and Accumulator have me convinced to try the PI III. I'm just waiting to finish off the bottle of PI II that I have. I'm about halfway through it right now.
 
JDookie- Hope you're wearing a (good) filter/mask when using that PI-II. All the dust you're dealing with is silica-based and thus carcinogenic. One more downside to the "old technology" abrasives. 3M even has a warning about it on the label, something you don't see required on too many polishes.



I still prodbably use less product than you are with the Cyclo. A "quarter sized to start" sounds like more than you'd need. I initially prime the pads by putting a *very thin* but uniform amount of product on the pads with my finger, rubbing it into the foam so it's evenly distributed. I'm always trying to use the least amount of product possible, not because of waste/expense, but because it seems to work better/easier with less.



I too find the Cyclo can flash some products too fast (especially AIO). Sorta funny since the Cyclo's speed varies between (only) 2,800 and 3,200 depending on load, but the PC at speed 5 is supposedly around 5,000 orbits per minute. Hmmm.....:nixweiss
 
Accumulator said:
I too find the Cyclo can flash some products too fast (especially AIO). Sorta funny since the Cyclo's speed varies between (only) 2,800 and 3,200 depending on load, but the PC at speed 5 is supposedly around 5,000 orbits per minute. Hmmm.....:nixweiss



Accumulator,



Please explain "flash..too fast"?:nixweiss Thanks,



Charles
 
Yeah, that's right. Using AIO by Cyclo causes the AIO to dry so fast I don't feel I've really "worked" the panel enough to take full advantage of AIO's cleaning abilities. And it's hard to buff off the residue. Working it at a slower speed via PC makes for more effective cleaning and easier use (compared to using it with the Cyclo).



With abrasive products, "flashing too fast" can result in the product being too dry to work before the abrasives have broken down properly. This isn't much of a problem with the Cyclo, but it's smart to pay attention to how the product is behaving.
 
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