First time using 1Z Ultra and polish

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Gonzo

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and I'm IMPRESSED.



Several months ago I repaired some blemishes on my hood using some color matched aerosol and clear coat. THAT experience taught me to take my vehicle to a body some the next time! I made a scheisshaus of my hood.



I started prepping for a show on Friday night and decided to try the 1Z Ultra and 1Z Paint polish to see if I could repair the mess. Started with a LC yellow and the Polish, and my 9227 - looking good, and did notice that the mess diminished very sligltly, so switched over to the Ultra - and it ate the crap right off my paint. Makita was at #1 or slightly above. Took my time and did the entire hood, once the overspray was removed - was that pad ever red! Next the Polish and a LC white - even better as it removed all the micro marring of the Ultra. Did notice an "oily" look, so when that was MF'ed off, hit it with a LC gray pad and Menzerna FP - speed about 2.5, all this on the rotary. I have never before attained a DEFECT FREE hood before (I always used to settle for 90-95% "good 'nuf").



Finished off with AIO on a PC and then BN's WO-WO layer of SG. Like I said I'M IMPRESSED - so much so I will be ordering large quantities of the 1Z Ultra and 1Z Polish very soon.



Sorry no pix as it is Pi$$ing down rain right now. BTW, I did this at dusk and in darkness using a 500 watt portable and 1000 watt tripod kleig lights, to which I attribute the ability to actually see the scratches and swirls I wanted to remove.



WOO HOO, thank you 1Z
 
I also like the 1Z Ultra. I used it with a PC to remove some deeper impefections. It does create a haze( dull finish), which it is suppose to do. This haze was quickly remove or polished out with Menzerna IP followed by FP. Dust create a little dust but that was okay since I covered the remainder of vehicle. I am sure with a rotary this stuff works wonders.

Very nice and effective product. :xyxthumbs
 
What products does Ultra Polish compare to on an abrasive scale? 3M Medium Cut Rubbing Compound, SSR3, Menzerna Power Gloss?
 
The Ultra Polish is more harsh than DACP, which is about as agressive as PP. It's a little more than Menzernas Power Gloss, but is friendly enough to be used even by hand ;) and works very well w/ the PC.
 
1Z Ultra is definitely more abrasive then the initial cutting power of DACP. I would place it between 3M Medium and Heavy Cut. Actually, DACP would be a perfect compliment to 1Z Ultra for a finishing polish for light vehicles.
 
Glad to hear more people are discovering the 1Z polishes. With a rotary, they seem to like sorta slow speeds, which makes them pretty safe for that application.



I too would put the Ultra around the level of a Medium Cut RC, but it breaks down fairly quickly and easily (even by hand). You *DO* still have to follow up with something milder, but it doesn't stay VERY aggressive for too long. If you use too high a speed on the rotary, it actually breaks down TOO fast for (Audi) b/c paint.



BTW, *I* generally follow up the PP/rotary step with some PP by PC, just to make sure I don't have holograms. When 1Z stuff DOES leave them, they can be sorta tricky to spot because of the oils and "wax" that are left behind. The FP by PC is another way to deal with this, I just know I'm gonna have to get some of that stuff eventually :o
 
I am planning to try out the UP and PP soon and I am curious if PP will be adequate as a final step. Soem of you have said that FP (or something like it) is necessary to finish. Any opinions?



Thanks,

Max
 
Ice9- Sorta depends on the paint. You can USUALLY go straight from PP to wax, but the MP is a quick, easy extra step that *I* like to do.
 
FP as a final step will leave nothing on your paint but squeek, literally. Using it with a PC on #6 will burnish the paint and make an awesome base for anything that follows.
 
I will be doing a b/c black and a s/s red soon. I am guessing that due to the darker colors, the FP would be good to use. I would like to try the FP due to the fact that it has no waxes or fillers.



Any others you would recommend for this step?



Thanks for the advice, by the way.
 
Gonzo said:
FP as a final step will leave nothing on your paint but squeek, literally. Using it with a PC on #6 will burnish the paint and make an awesome base for anything that follows.
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Funny.......I use the PC at 3.5 when applying Menzernas FP....And even so it dries ratter fast...Leaving a great finish :bow
 
jgv, This was my first time using FP with the rotary so I erred on the side of caution. Previously I used the PC @ #6 with a CMA gray pad.
 
So in order of aggressiveness you would have UP, then DACP, Menzerna IP, followed by PP and then Menzerna FP? If the 1z has oils and waxes, does the FP remove them? Do they "clog" the pad during application?
 
When I was using the Ultra, I ended up with a lot of crud in the pad - SONUS, UPP, SG & AIO as well as clear coat and Red overspray. It took a long time to wash it out and the pad is still a little pink. I should have used my pad cleaning wheel, but I didn't.



I would say the FP did remove the oils because when wiping down the dried FP, I heard the notable squeek, just as I had heard on all previous occasions when using it.
 
LightngSVT said:
So in order of aggressiveness you would have UP, then DACP, Menzerna IP, followed by PP and then Menzerna FP? If the 1z has oils and waxes, does the FP remove them? Do they "clog" the pad during application?
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The order:



UP

DACP = PP

IP (close behind)

FP



I don't see the point of going between them. Either use IP and FP, or PP and MP or when required UP + PP.
 
That's some good info guys. I might have to invest in a less abrasive polish to follow 1Z PP.



I kind of like the idea of getting rid of all the fillers/waxes left behind from the 1Z stuff. I know FP will take care of that. Any other recommendations for final polishes without fillers/waxes?



I am thinking about these:



1. Menzerna FP

2. Poorboy's SSR1

3. Poorboy's Pro Polish

4. ????



Anybody have any others they can think of that I might want to try? Any opinions?



Thanks,

Max
 
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