First real post - 2010 Viper ACR Voo Doo

TTBear

Allan F
Hi everyone,

After years of lurking around, and gleaning massive amounts of information from you all, I put up a post in the intro section, and was welcomed by many - thanks! Much appreciated.

I have been an enthusiast detailer for quite some years. I recall very vividly, in early university, thinking how smart I was by running a regular, run-of-the-mill window squeegee over the entire car, thinking I was being super efficient, and also, drying off a freshly washed car with paper towels at the car wash, as I had forgotten my chamois (which was one of those brutal, leather things.... that was never washed.... :blink:)

Fast forward to present, and after gaining a considerable amount of knowledge through others' eyes, I think I know enough such that most cars wouldn't cause me much in the way of anxiety!

Over the past few weeks, i have been busy! I mostly do our own cars and friends' cars - we have a group of guys and girls that drive exotics, and I have started to do some of their cars. In the last couple months, I have had the pleasure of detailing a Gallardo LP-560 (my car), Dodge Challenger SRT, Lotus Esprit, Mercedes AMG SLK55.

I don't do this as a profession. I admire those that can - the attention to detail is phenomenal, and something to which I aspire.

That said, my latest, and definitely most challenging car to date, was a friend's 2010 Viper ACR Voo Doo edition - number 10 of 31. The main problem with the car, was that the owner's German Shepherd decided that it would be a good idea to jump up ONTO the hood, then scramble up OVER the roof, and finally sit on the rear deck lid, resting his paws on the rear spoiler, thus gaining a fantastic vantage point of the back yard through the garage window! :eek:

I took my time with this one. It proved to be quite complex - hard, hard paint, but it easily marred, even with buffing off the residual polish. The general condition of the paint was just okay, with several fine scratches all over, and most worrying, LOTS of scratches over the creases and edges, which I was very leery of attacking! I probably could have picked a better car on which to learn wet sanding, but as they say, "no guts, no glory"!!

I also just received my Flex PE8, and found it AMAZINGLY useful. Even on a setting of 1 or 2, however, I found that I was getting a fine haze and holograms (even on the lowest setting - from what I have read, this isn't entirely surprising?)

This was fairly representative of of scratches over the entire vehicle:

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This is how some of the pooch's claw marks looked, after the owner tried to remove them, a bit:

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A couple more defect pics:

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Ummmmm, I am a little bit lax at taking "after" shots....... clearly. :(

Here's a set of before and after shots that I did remember to take:

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(The "after" one is the one on the bottom...... :rofl)

And here's what I ended up with - like I said, I don't do this for a living (obviously, haha), but I enjoy every moment that I can devote to it, immensely - it appeals to my OCD side, and it gives me GREAT satisfaction to do something for my friends, who have done so much for me.

The hood was a BEAR. There were six areas of claw marks, that needed to be wet sanded. That, and the fact that the hood is shaped in such a complex manner, made it very involved. To do it well, I used the PE8 with a 2" orange pad/Menzerna SIP, followed by hand application with Menzerna Micro Polish in the tight areas. Also, on a Viper forum, I found a debate over whether one needed to tape off the stripes on the hood/roof rear deck/rear spoiler. I can confirm that the stripes are painted on, and one can simply go at the area as a whole, without any need for taping. There was no build-up of product along the edges, at all.
 

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And, just a couple weak attempts at getting a little artsy-fartsy.

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The owner was really pleased. I kinda was, too. The number of little curves, nooks, crannies, and lips all over this car made it very challenging, but very rewarding.


I would welcome any critiques and criticisms - like I said, I am definitely not a professional detailer, but aspire to approach some of the talents that some of you guys possess, some day.


Thanks for making it this far in my long-winded post! I should maybe listen to my wife a little more, when she says "Allan, y'know, sometimes less is more....." ^_^



Thanks again for all of the help, all. :yourrock
 

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Thanks! I am loathe to admit how long it took, as I'm sure the real detailers on this forum would do it in a third of the time, and to a much higher standard!

Cheers!
 
Considering that a Viper is a medium sized car, it was BLACK, needed wet sanding in multiple places and in tight corners and curves AND needing compounded, polished then waxed, I would be surprised if it DIDN'T take a few days at least, nice work!
 
Awesome job !!! I love the hood reflection shot..:drool:

Thanks!! That pic is one of my faves, too :)

Considering that a Viper is a medium sized car, it was BLACK, needed wet sanding in multiple places and in tight corners and curves AND needing compounded, polished then waxed, I would be surprised if it DIDN'T take a few days at least, nice work!

Thank you! It was surprising how big the Viper was. That hood goes on forever!!! And it is wiiiide. My hamstrings and lower back were getting a little fatigued from leaning over to reach the middle of the hood, while trying not to touch the fenders. It was definitely the most challenging car I've ever done, but also the most rewarding.

I forgot to mention - not only was this the first car on which I used the Flex PE8, but also, the first time I used a Nanoskin wash mitt. It was AMAZING. I was skeptical, but it worked fantastically well. I may never go back to clay! The whole car arrived with this weird fine film all over it - with a surface texture like very fine sandpaper. The whole car took less than 45 minutes to "clay", and I was taking my time, working in around all the curves and ridges. One of the better things I've ever picked up for the car.


Thanks guys!
 
Great job!

Out of curiosity how much time did you have invested? There are lots of detailers on this forum who take a crazy number of hours to correct other model cars.

Btw, welcome to AGO!
 
Thanks! I am loathe to admit how long it took, as I'm sure the real detailers on this forum would do it in a third of the time, and to a much higher standard!

Cheers!

The way I look at it is as a hobby there's no reason I should drop everything to finish a car. I do it because I enjoy it so I have no issue taking my time and doing it piece by piece. Last time I did a full detail I stretched it out over 3 days I think? Time permitting of course.
 
Daaaaang, looks awesome!

Thanks!!! I was pretty happy with how it turned out. The owner was thrilled! He messaged me and said "dammit, after the drive home, I have exactly three bugs on the front bumper. I don't wanna touch them, cuz I'm afraid to touch the paint!" :)

Great job!

Out of curiosity how much time did you have invested? There are lots of detailers on this forum who take a crazy number of hours to correct other model cars.

Btw, welcome to AGO!

thanks for the welcome! I like it here, already :)

Hmmmmm. It was a long weekend here, and I took Friday off, just for giggles (which turned out to be a good thing, in terms of getting this detail done). I think all told, I invested maybe 26 hours? Loved every minute of it, though. I will often go all day, and into the wee hours of the morning, and almost forget to eat. I put on my tunes, get stuck in, and just lose track of time! I finished this car at 3am, and thought it was around 12:30am :wacko: (My wife is very tolerant, haha).

The way I look at it is as a hobby there's no reason I should drop everything to finish a car. I do it because I enjoy it so I have no issue taking my time and doing it piece by piece. Last time I did a full detail I stretched it out over 3 days I think? Time permitting of course.

I agree. It's all for fun, and to do something for friends. When they offer to pay me, it feels awkward. (They always insist, but unbeknownst to them, I donate their money to the local animal shelter).
 
Great job. 26hrs for the amount of work isn't bad at all. All that matters is that the car came out incredible looking!


Thanks Justin :)

It was actually probably over thirty hours, but there were a few hockey games in there that I had half an eye on during the process (between Stanley Cup and the World Mens Championships), so I'm thinking maybe 30 hours in the garage, but 26 hours of actual "work time". ^_^
 
Thanks Justin :)

It was actually probably over thirty hours, but there were a few hockey games in there that I had half an eye on during the process (between Stanley Cup and the World Mens Championships), so I'm thinking maybe 30 hours in the garage, but 26 hours of actual "work time". ^_^


So roughly 2.5 days or 2 really long days, not bad at all for the quality of work you produced.
 
So roughly 2.5 days or 2 really long days, not bad at all for the quality of work you produced.

Thanks! In between hockey games, I was all over that car like a big red rash hahaha.

Wow incredible mirror finish, what did you use for products ?

Thank you! I think it pales in comparison to that which the guys can achieve on this web site, but your compliment is really appreciated! You guys taught me that the end result is directly related to the preparation of the surface leading up to the final layer, so that's where the vast majority of my time was spent. That said, the owner was more interested in longevity of the finish, so after some debate, I chose........ Zaino. No kidding. I know it has its supporters and definitely its detractors, but I thought it worked well here, and I think it will give the owner the longevity that he wanted. Using ZFX, I applied AIO, wiped down with Z8, and followed with two layers of Z2, again following each one with Z8 wipes.

I would appreciate any comments about how I could have done this job better - I am ALWAYS looking for improvement. Cheers!
 
I would appreciate any comments about how I could have done this job better - I am ALWAYS looking for improvement. Cheers!

Well, without being able to be there with a magnifying glass to pick apart the car, I can't see anything to say how you could have done it 'better.'
 
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