First Polisher:7424 or Flex, Pads, Polishes?

BocaCoupe

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About to go down the machine polisher road.

I am not a professional detailer, I just really enjoy washing and taking care of my vehicles (especially the GTR) :hail:

I am a quick learner and very dedicated to doing things the right way.



My cars:



2011 Nissan GTR - Pearl white

- garaged

- washed weekly

- needs claybar / polish / seal

- light swirls hard to see in the white

- one long but very shallow scratch (cant see unless i point it out)



2011 Toyota Tundra - Gray

- parked outside

- washed once a month

- waxed once in its life (4k miles)

- almost new condition / light swirls if any



2008 Infiniti G37s - Black (leased)

- parked outside

- washed and waxed once a month

- lots of swirls

- waterspots from sprinklers



I would like to use the G37s as a test bed since its leased and has the most damage.

Ultimately, I intend on polishing my GTR and sealing once I feel comfortable.



I know that infiniti/nissan are notorious for soft paint, so i'm thinking mild correction can go a long way.

Wondering if you have any polisher / pad / polish recommendations.

Any and all thoughts appreciated!
 
You'll be happy with the pc. I'd get HD UNO as my main polish. Get some Micro Fiber pads and the UNO Pads as well. Keep it simple. Your black Infinity paint is terrible paint. Not soft. I'd try the MF cutting pad with UNO. To protect, try the new Nitro Seal. Unbelievable gloss, or at least Poxy.
 
only thing i would change for above would be get the griot's garage 6". the flex is nice but the griots is half the price. i think the griots with mf will work a little better than the flex. both will work.
 
I have the flex and I am pretty much like you ((except the cars :( :) ).



If I was buying now and (more importantly) if I was able to curb my desire for nice gadgets, I would go down the 7424XP route.



That would be not because the flex is not a great tool (it is from my experience), but because I wouldn't need to buy a rotary for the spot pads flexibility. XP (or Griot's or any good DA for that matter) will allow you to handle 'almost' everything. Also in terms of money, at the cost of flex you can built almost your whole kit.



For pads and polishes, *I* use Lake Country and Menzerna. Have a read searching Autopia, check out Detailing World's products of the year posts and I am sure that with the right technique and time you will get a satisfactory result.
 
OP: nice line up of cars, and nice plan doing some test work on the lease ;)



I have the FLEX 3401 VRG myself and it hasn't let me down between paint correction, to top coat thus far.

Of course there is nothing wrong with a PC but the 'forced orbital' has quickly become a favorite for all uses. It is also relatively easy to use as long as you are not a monster with it, because it is capable of burning paint somewhat easily.



Got to enjoy FLEX and their German engineering!



Best of luck
 
BocaCoupe- I'd get the Griot's 6" RO. I also have the PC and the Flex 3401, and IMO if you're only buying one polisher the Griot's is the one to get.
 
Hmm... so even taking $$$ out of the equation, the Griot is a better machine then the Flex?



I like the idea of HD Uno with the various pads then using the new HD Nitro Seal, seems easy enough.

Would the results be good?
 
I agree with the others. Grab the GG6, you can find good deal if you shop around. Grab some UNO and a variety of pads. The more pads, the merrier, you'll need lots. If you want to take it over the top a final finishing/jeweling polish like P085RD is a good suggestion.
 
Unfortunately I cannot help you on your second question, as I have not used any of the products.



On your first question though my understanding from all the reading is that there may not a single answer as to which DA is better. Obviously not even trying to question Acc's knowledge and position of course :).



Many have made a good suggestion. Try if possible the different tools, perhaps in a shop, or through neighbouring Autopians. The feeling you get from each will be the best guide I think. You can read that all of them produce good results with proper technique and time.
 
dual action and forced rotation are not the same. the flex is forced and the rest are da. as for which is better they both have the strong points and place in garage. if your only going to have one machine i would say the griots. then if you want to add more i would look at the flex or a rotary.
 
BocaCoupe said:
Hmm... so even taking $$$ out of the equation, the Griot is a better machine then the Flex?



I wouldn't like to say "better" but the Griot's is probably the best choice if you're only gonna buy one. Almost as aggressive and you can work around the lower power. More versatile (if only because of all the pad size choices). More user-friendly (the Flex has a fair amount of "recoil" and some people find it taxing). Better finishing (though this is such a minor diff I doubt most would ever notice). And the lifetime warranty is an added plus.



I like the idea of HD Uno with the various pads then using the new HD Nitro Seal, seems easy enough.

Would the results be good?



I haven't used those either (yet), but IMO if things don't turn out swell it won't be because of the products ;) As I hear it, the big thing is to *NOT* use too much UNO, and since most people use too much of every product that's worth keeping in mind.
 
Here is what i have planned:



3x Orange 5.5" 3D Flat Foam

3x Green 5.5" 3D Flat Foam

3x Red 5.5" 3D Flat Foam

1x 4 7/8" 3D Flexible backing plate

1x Griot's 6" 25' cord polisher

1x 16oz HD UNO

1x 16oz HD Nitro Seal

1x 16oz HD metal polish (i have a powerball, for exhaust tips)



Look good? Changes?
 
wascallyrabbit said:
.. how about some poxy to top off the nitro seal.



What would be the benefit of the Poxy topper?



I'm asking all sorts of Qs about Poxy, trying to figure out what it's place might be :think:
 
Accumulator said:
What would be the benefit of the Poxy topper?



I'm asking all sorts of Qs about Poxy, trying to figure out what it's place might be :think:



they don't sell nitro seal in 16oz.



nitro seal can be topped up with part b or poxy every 3 months or so. ns is supposed to last 12-18 months the real question is that from a single application with no top ups or being topped up every 3 months.
 
wascallyrabbit- I'm just sticking with my current LSPs (so no NitroSeal), but I got a bottle of Poxy and I've been wondering what I could use it for. I kinda hate for it to just sit on the shelf, but....eh, I'm simply 100% happy with my current stuff :nixweiss
 
my understanding is it works well on trim. but since your happy with your current lsp's you probably don't really need poxy so you should send it to me (heh heh). kidding aside i don't know what you would really use on guess you could put it over/under fk1000/or any other lsp and see if that tickles your fancy. i've been playing with it loml's red suv and thinks it looks pretty good but most everything i've put on it has look pretty good.
 
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