evensteven
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rep came to the shop fixed the problem !!!!!
sounds good to me !!!!
sounds good to me !!!!
First glance at Makita 9227c Rotary buffer
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Tim Lingor
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Hey SRL,
I am sure that if the shop has had as many problems as you state, they will be more than willing to let everyone know about it!!! I would if I had invested a lot of money in a product and it broke down easily!!!
I would still like the name of the business as I will make my phone calls and get to the bottom of this. I am really curious what Makita will say! Can you at least get a work order # and/or replacement code #. It will be easier to track down.
Thanks
Tim
I am sure that if the shop has had as many problems as you state, they will be more than willing to let everyone know about it!!! I would if I had invested a lot of money in a product and it broke down easily!!!
I would still like the name of the business as I will make my phone calls and get to the bottom of this. I am really curious what Makita will say! Can you at least get a work order # and/or replacement code #. It will be easier to track down.
Thanks
Tim
Tim Lingor
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Knight,
My specs are quoted from the following sources:
Dewalt 2000 "High Performance Industrial Tools & Accessories" catalogue; p.100 : Model DW849---8.25 lbs
"Makita General Catalogue 2002-2003" p.55 : Model 9227C--- 6.6 lbs
for a grand total of 1.65 lbs lighter in favor of the Makita.
My specs are quoted from the following sources:
Dewalt 2000 "High Performance Industrial Tools & Accessories" catalogue; p.100 : Model DW849---8.25 lbs
"Makita General Catalogue 2002-2003" p.55 : Model 9227C--- 6.6 lbs
for a grand total of 1.65 lbs lighter in favor of the Makita.
Jngrbrdman
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Knight said:
Usually you should round either to the nearest whole number or half number. Just for future reference you shouldn't round up that far when its a .4.
Tim Lingor
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Hey SRL!
I do not need the #'s if you can not get them, just the name will do. Makita will be able to trace the work orders. Then I can see exactly what went wrong with these machines. Please tell the business not to throw out work orders as they maybe given an extended warranty on a product.
When can you let me know?? I am really curious! :bounce
Thanks!!
Tim
ps. Knight-- 3.4 round down, 3.5 round up. However, when dealing with such a small amount, round to the nearest half number please! I used to teach Math!!
I do not need the #'s if you can not get them, just the name will do. Makita will be able to trace the work orders. Then I can see exactly what went wrong with these machines. Please tell the business not to throw out work orders as they maybe given an extended warranty on a product.
When can you let me know?? I am really curious! :bounce
Thanks!!
Tim
ps. Knight-- 3.4 round down, 3.5 round up. However, when dealing with such a small amount, round to the nearest half number please! I used to teach Math!!
Tim Lingor
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Sounds good! I am looking forward to your reply.
Then we will know exactly what, if anything, is wrong with the Makita !!!
Then we will know exactly what, if anything, is wrong with the Makita !!!
2hotford,
I do not own either,but I agree with you on alot of these point's. The reason I say this is I bought a Makita varible speed rotary for my stepson a few year's ago. I can't remember what model # or if it's the same one as the 9227C,but he work's in body work & detailing and has used this rotary for a few year's everyday & on weekend's doing side detailing and has never had a problem.
I called him to ask him about this topic,he said Dewalt,PC,Mikwaukee are all good product's. It come's down to a personal preference of what you like. He said that just about all power tool's use some type of composite somewhere in or on the machine. He also said in his profession that he has seen just as many failure's with other brand's as he has with the Makita's.
I don't believe that Makita make's these machine to not hold up under severe working condition's. Espically when you here those stories about a guy, who know's a guy ,who has a friend ,who's grandmother's rotary failed on her. Sorry I don't buy those kind of story's & can't vouch for them . All I hear is from what my son tell's mre about his Makita. Beleive me if it failed and he needed a new one I would be the first to hear about it since he would want to borrow $$$ to replace it.
As for heat he said they all produce heat & get hot with extended use (some more than other's). If you abuse anything enough it will fail you. He take's his apart to keep it clean . What he actually does I really don't know.
This thread (although interesting & informative) is turning into a bashing session. About what is better and what is not. My opinion is that if your paying for it ...get what you want & what work's for you.
I myself am in the market for a rotary. I will probably go Makita just because of the weight and control's and a few other feature's. With my son using this I beleive it's a reliable unit from what I can see.
One last thing...I was in a few detail center's this week just nosing around to see what product's the have and I can say that I have seen PC's,Makita's , Dewalt's & Milwaukee's. All personal preference. It's like asking a question What's the best wax...You know where that one would go.
All good info & perspective from everyone here.
Fall
I do not own either,but I agree with you on alot of these point's. The reason I say this is I bought a Makita varible speed rotary for my stepson a few year's ago. I can't remember what model # or if it's the same one as the 9227C,but he work's in body work & detailing and has used this rotary for a few year's everyday & on weekend's doing side detailing and has never had a problem.
I called him to ask him about this topic,he said Dewalt,PC,Mikwaukee are all good product's. It come's down to a personal preference of what you like. He said that just about all power tool's use some type of composite somewhere in or on the machine. He also said in his profession that he has seen just as many failure's with other brand's as he has with the Makita's.
I don't believe that Makita make's these machine to not hold up under severe working condition's. Espically when you here those stories about a guy, who know's a guy ,who has a friend ,who's grandmother's rotary failed on her. Sorry I don't buy those kind of story's & can't vouch for them . All I hear is from what my son tell's mre about his Makita. Beleive me if it failed and he needed a new one I would be the first to hear about it since he would want to borrow $$$ to replace it.
As for heat he said they all produce heat & get hot with extended use (some more than other's). If you abuse anything enough it will fail you. He take's his apart to keep it clean . What he actually does I really don't know.
This thread (although interesting & informative) is turning into a bashing session. About what is better and what is not. My opinion is that if your paying for it ...get what you want & what work's for you.
I myself am in the market for a rotary. I will probably go Makita just because of the weight and control's and a few other feature's. With my son using this I beleive it's a reliable unit from what I can see.
One last thing...I was in a few detail center's this week just nosing around to see what product's the have and I can say that I have seen PC's,Makita's , Dewalt's & Milwaukee's. All personal preference. It's like asking a question What's the best wax...You know where that one would go.
All good info & perspective from everyone here.
Fall
Jngrbrdman
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2hotford said:Sounds good! I am looking forward to your reply.
Then we will know exactly what, if anything, is wrong with the Makita !!!
Do you work for Makita or something? You just seem awfully interested in the numbers and everything. I was just wondering why you can figure out the problem. I just figured you worked for them or something.
Nagchampa
Oh I'll Bring the Shizzle
I think the Porter Cable is worth a look if you will be using the machine lightly. If I was planning to use a rotary for hours on end, I would go with a Milwaukee. I have seen the Makita in more detail shops than other brands, but when I worked in a body shop, they only used the Milwaukee but also had a DeWalt.
I don't think that anyone here thinks the Makita is junk, but it isn't any better than the other brands mentioned.
I don't think that anyone here thinks the Makita is junk, but it isn't any better than the other brands mentioned.
Tim Lingor
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No Jng, I do not work for Makita. I am just interested in what real problems, if any, people are having with the Makita buffer.
If people are going to say one product is better than another, stating that one is better built or is prone to failure, I would like to know why or how. I think that is a fair question.
I have to agree with the poster before me; this thread has become a bashing session for a "mine is better than yours" philosophy. If there are real problems with the Makita, let's find out once and for all, and stop all of the speculation based on hearsay and hyperbole.
Cheers!
If people are going to say one product is better than another, stating that one is better built or is prone to failure, I would like to know why or how. I think that is a fair question.
I have to agree with the poster before me; this thread has become a bashing session for a "mine is better than yours" philosophy. If there are real problems with the Makita, let's find out once and for all, and stop all of the speculation based on hearsay and hyperbole.
Cheers!
Tim Lingor
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Hey Nag!!
I agree, the Dewalt, PC, Mil, and the Makita are ALL quality products!! I really do believe that it boils down to personal preference. I also consider the dealer from which I purchased the product from. If the dealer is no good, then no matter what brand of tool, when maintenance is required, it will be a real pain in the back side!
I agree, the Dewalt, PC, Mil, and the Makita are ALL quality products!! I really do believe that it boils down to personal preference. I also consider the dealer from which I purchased the product from. If the dealer is no good, then no matter what brand of tool, when maintenance is required, it will be a real pain in the back side!
Preference is a big issue sometimes when deciding on the product. If they are the same type of product and both are good in quality it comes down to preferences. A lot of good posts in this thread. It can come down to color sometimes.
It is lighter, the handle centered over the head of buffer,( could help in keeping pad flat) More settings to choose from, Increasing speed. etc. Makita has them dewalt does not. Maybe you don't want or need them. I happen to like these preferences a lot more than not having them. I have a makita now and I would like to say I love all the preferences I listed and would NOT like to settle for anything less than them. Both are good machines I just prefer the makita over the Dewalt. Good luck in deciding people.
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It is lighter, the handle centered over the head of buffer,( could help in keeping pad flat) More settings to choose from, Increasing speed. etc. Makita has them dewalt does not. Maybe you don't want or need them. I happen to like these preferences a lot more than not having them. I have a makita now and I would like to say I love all the preferences I listed and would NOT like to settle for anything less than them. Both are good machines I just prefer the makita over the Dewalt. Good luck in deciding people.
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imported_BretFraz
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Fallguy said:
I disagree completely. Unless conversations like this are conducted in the open with others allowed to chime in and challenge some of the assertions, none of us learn anything of substance, including you.
Frankly, I'm glad there are moderators involved in this discussion. Their participation will help expand the topic. Without their involvement this topic may have already been locked and moved to the Mod Forum. Then nobody learns nothing.
Jngrbrdman
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2hotford said:No Jng, I do not work for Makita. I am just interested in what real problems, if any, people are having with the Makita buffer.
If people are going to say one product is better than another, stating that one is better built or is prone to failure, I would like to know why or how. I think that is a fair question.
I have to agree with the poster before me; this thread has become a bashing session for a "mine is better than yours" philosophy. If there are real problems with the Makita, let's find out once and for all, and stop all of the speculation based on hearsay and hyperbole.
Cheers!
I seriously doubt that the problem stems to all Makita polsihers. Its probably just random units that are plagued with it. If it was a problem that they all had then I'm sure there would have been a recall or something like that. Let's face it, all products will fail after enough use. Someone who polishes their car a couple times a year will probably get a lifetime worth of use out of the polishers discussed here. Someone using one in a shop who runs the polisher for 30 hours a week is likely not to get the same amount of time out of it but probably just as much use. Kind of like if we both buy a bottle of Pepsi and you chug yours and I nurse mine all day. We still got the same amount of Pepsi. Just one of us used it up quicker.
Tim Lingor
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Hey Jngr!!
I agree with you totally!!
My point was simple, if there is a real problem with a product, I want to know! Otherwise, it is like I said, I could take any tool and destroy it. But, that does not prove anything about a product's durability. Moreover, just because some dealers in a given area use one brand of rotary, and a different brand in a different area, does not make one more superior than the other. There could be many reasons, none of which may in any way be related to reliability. Just because they use a Ford or a Chevy more in movies or television shows, does that make them more reliable? I do not think so!
What ever the brand, (of the quality ones mentioned in this thread) I would bet that they are all very similar in terms of reliability.
Cheers!
I agree with you totally!!
My point was simple, if there is a real problem with a product, I want to know! Otherwise, it is like I said, I could take any tool and destroy it. But, that does not prove anything about a product's durability. Moreover, just because some dealers in a given area use one brand of rotary, and a different brand in a different area, does not make one more superior than the other. There could be many reasons, none of which may in any way be related to reliability. Just because they use a Ford or a Chevy more in movies or television shows, does that make them more reliable? I do not think so!
What ever the brand, (of the quality ones mentioned in this thread) I would bet that they are all very similar in terms of reliability.
Cheers!
C. Charles Hahn
CCH Auto Appearance, LLC
bretfraz said:
umm... thats.... nobody learns anything
oh and isn't the DW849 a dual-action?? if so I don't see how its a fair compairison between a dual action machine and a rotary as they are 2 different animals.
