Finish Kare FK 2180 and FK 1000P Discussion

Raz5219 said:
After all the great reviews about the FK products, I placed my order! I got 2180, 1000P and the 425. THis should provide good winter protection. Can't wait to get the products and use them!:buffing:



Quick question, i was told to make sure the paint is very clean before applying 2180. THis includes an IPA wipedown. I'm a newb..can someone tell me the proper way to do an IPA wipedown? do I mix it with water, and at what ratio? just spray and wipe?
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50:50 with water
 
jermar said:
I used 2180 on a silver-gray BMW with a PC & a white pad. It is a great one step product because it has a mild polishing properties. Great shine, and decent winter protection.
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2180 doesn't have any polishing ability. 218 has a slight cleaning effect. The only "polishing" ability is the cleaning of its solvent package. But every product cleans which has solvent in it.
 
poyo said:
I'll go for both, the FK 2180 to primarily seal the polishing job done underneath, FK 1000P for better, stronger protection ( and get some looks too ) then finally Meguiar's M16 for that 'nuba look! And yes, a layer of UQD afterwards.







Say, is the FK Pink Wax lasts longer than M16 over at our country Fishy?
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I'd say M16 is more durable than Pink Wax poyo. :)
 
Thnak you for your info sir. Now I'm still looking for the best single carnauba wax to utilise, Don't want too much products in my box of detailing goodies.



fishbonezken said:
I'd say M16 is more durable than Pink Wax poyo. :)
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Hi poyo,



If I am not mistaken, I will be ordering from the same retailer in Singapore :)



If you are looking for max durability, they have a set which consists of 215, 2180 and 1000P at a discounted rate. This set should be good for durability as recommended by the product tester of the retailer. He is honest with his findings on the products he tested. :)
 
I am using FK215 with 1000P. I found this is a great combination.



I also did think of get myself hand on with FK2180 as its claimed anti static but then with the price and size its bit pricy to me hehehe....



So now i think i better skipped FK215 :lock:
 
I just tried 2180. I have a 2 month old red Accord, it's been cleaned,clayed and waxed with 845. I wasn't really blown away with 845, it's ok but nothing special. After the cats scratched the hood in a few places (no cats were harmed after my meltdown) I decided to wash, IP on a low profile 5.5 " orange pad via PC and then 2180. I followed the directions to a T, it worked great. Next time I'll apply with a blue pad and the PC to say time and energy. I liked the look very much, decided to try some Z8 a friend gave me, it seemed to take a tiny bit of slickness away, but added a little clarity/definition - weird. I'll be odering more 2180!
 
im testing 2180 durability right now against duragloss 601 and 105 to soon to tell but i will post a new thread near xmas but so far they look identical.
 
mixxer said:
im testing 2180 durability right now against duragloss 601 and 105 to soon to tell but i will post a new thread near xmas but so far they look identical.
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Thanks for posting - I just applied 601 & 105 and I'll be curious. I was thinking about ordering some Pink Wax and am on the fence about 1000P.
 
I'm still not sure that I completely understand the difference between 2180 and 1000P. It appears that they accomplish very much the same thing, no?



According to the Finish Kare website, the 1-10 scale shows the following:



Gloss: 2180 = 10; 1000P = 10



Depth: 2180 = 3; 1000P = 4



Protection: 2180 = 10; 1000P = 10



Durability: 2180 = 10; 1000P = 10



So my question is if 1000P does everything as good as 2180 does, and even provides a little more depth, why would you use 2180 in connection with (or even instead of) 1000P?



1000P appears to be a somewhat unique product. What I am most concerned about is the fact that it is not one of their anti-static products (I tend not to use Carnauba's too much because of the dust attraction). Will using 425 over 1000P reduce the dust attraction?
 
Rob Tomlin said:
I'm still not sure that I completely understand the difference between 2180 and 1000P. It appears that they accomplish very much the same thing, no?



According to the Finish Kare website, the 1-10 scale shows the following:



Gloss: 2180 = 10; 1000P = 10



Depth: 2180 = 3; 1000P = 4



Protection: 2180 = 10; 1000P = 10



Durability: 2180 = 10; 1000P = 10



So my question is if 1000P does everything as good as 2180 does, and even provides a little more depth, why would you use 2180 in connection with (or even instead of) 1000P?



1000P appears to be a somewhat unique product. What I am most concerned about is the fact that it is not one of their anti-static products (I tend not to use Carnauba's too much because of the dust attraction). Will using 425 over 1000P reduce the dust attraction?
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Hi,

I used 1000P and I find that it doesn't attract dust.

In terms of looks, 1000P seems to 'give' an extra layer of clearcoat to paintwork while 2180 gives a bright vibrant gloss.

Bence would be the best person to describe the difference between both products :D
 
Well, I think that they are substantially different. They look different, they behave differently.



2180 has a more instant look. Yes, it is very bright, vibrant. It gets absorbed "into the paint" (dunno how - it's just an empirical observation), while the 1000P doesn't produce this effect.



The 1000P can, may look a bit *dull* immediately after application, but as it cures, it gets definition and clarity. I think it protects better physically, but honestly, I never did a comparo to find it out.
 
vx55 said:
Hi,

I used 1000P and I find that it doesn't attract dust.

In terms of looks, 1000P seems to 'give' an extra layer of clearcoat to paintwork while 2180 gives a bright vibrant gloss.

Bence would be the best person to describe the difference between both products :D
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Bence said:
Well, I think that they are substantially different. They look different, they behave differently.



2180 has a more instant look. Yes, it is very bright, vibrant. It gets absorbed "into the paint" (dunno how - it's just an empirical observation), while the 1000P doesn't produce this effect.



The 1000P can, may look a bit *dull* immediately after application, but as it cures, it gets definition and clarity. I think it protects better physically, but honestly, I never did a comparo to find it out.
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Trying to pin this down.



My application will be on my my Silver Metallic Lotus. This is NOT a daily driver. It gets about 5k miles per year. So, protection is somewhat important, but not the ultimate priority.



Given my priority being looks (and lack of dust attraction like so many carnauba's) and application (on a Silver Metallic) do you recommend the 1000P?



The term "dull" concerns me, but you say that this is only initially, correct?



2180 doesn't appeal to me too much for the simple fact that I already have too many sealants on hand, including Zaino, UPP, Werkstatt, and Opti-Seal.



Would I be better off just staying with one of the above sealants? Add 1000P on top of one of the above? Or try topping with Pink Wax (without the 1000p) and deal with some dust attraction?



Sorry for all the questions, just trying to decide which way to go here. :confused:
 
The term *dull* is a bit confusing. Imagine it looking like a handsome wax after application, but it improves the look in the next 2-3 days significantly. It gains focus, definition. It will go extremely sharp.
 
Bence, how good is the environmental protection of the FK sealants? Do bird bombs, hard water spots, bugs, tar, etc. go right through it, or does it repel stuff well enough to give you some time to get it washed off?



I'm going to be doing a pretty comprehensive sealant test this summer, but I have to narrow the playing field somehow. I'm looking to include only the top-rated sealants with good environmental protection and ease of cleaning.
 
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