Finally bit the bullet; Ordered new Griot's D/A

Accumulator said:
With the M105 (and, to a much lesser extent the M205), it's just the nature of the product; the pads get loaded up with dried-up product and cut-off paint and you can only clean them to a certain extent via brushing/rubbing with a towel/compressed air/etc. before you finally have to wash them out. They won't work right with the products until fully dry, and that can be a problem when you're in the middle of a detail.



With some other products you can get by with fewer pads, but whenever you're doing serious correction IME more pads is better than fewer. Loaded-up pads don't cut as effectively.
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okay thanks. I guess that leaves me with one last question..



How many pads are you guys talking about 3 pads of each? or 2 pads or what?
 
toymachine2009 said:
okay thanks. I guess that leaves me with one last question..



How many pads are you guys talking about 3 pads of each? or 2 pads or what?
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You can get by with 1 pad, but you'll have to wash it and wait for it to dry. I use about 4 6.5" pads per stage of polishing on a car, though when I go up to a finishing polish, its usually down to 2 or 3. Clean pads work so much better than dirty ones, you'll learn about that real quick.
 
BigAl3 said:
buy the DA seperate and pick and choose exactly what you need for the rest...
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Agreed, the kits come with crappy pad selections. Check out the pad 6-packs most vendors offer.
 
Will do thanks for the tip guys. my OB g35 sedan is swirled up like crazy! I swear thats the softest clear coat I seen so far is my car. your finger nail will leave a scratch in the clear its rediculous.



I see older cars with minimal to no swirling. I have been doing the interior of a 6 year old van and I cant really see swirls in it and its been drive thru washed its whole life. Interior was a wreck though. Got that situated. I am really good at interior now I gotta learn exterior then ill be set :)
 
Just think, with soft clear, you'll get to use your DA even more! LOL. You'll have fun, its awesome to watch the swirls disappear.
 
toymachine2009 said:
Will do thanks for the tip guys. my OB g35 sedan is swirled up like crazy! I swear thats the softest clear coat I seen so far is my car. your finger nail will leave a scratch in the clear its rediculous...
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Well...I'd expect a fingernail to scratch most *any* clear...I've done lots of fingernail scratches behind the door handles of Audis when some [individual] got careless. I assume that a *hangnail* will scratch even the hardest auto paint.



I see older cars with minimal to no swirling. I have been doing the interior of a 6 year old van and I cant really see swirls in it and its been drive thru washed its whole life...
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You just need different/more demanding inspection conditions ;)

yakky said:
Just think, with soft clear, you'll get to use your DA even more!
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Heh heh, you're just kidding, right? Soft clear + frequent correction = overthinned clear in no time :D
 
So Cant you only polish a car so much or so many times till you cant because the clear is so thin?



So what do you do when that happens? When there is swirls in someones paint but there is too little clear to polish?
 
toymachine2009 said:
So Cant you only polish a car so much or so many times till you cant because the clear is so thin?



So what do you do when that happens? When there is swirls in someones paint but there is too little clear to polish?
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Many pros and some of us crazy hobbyists have electronic Paint thickness gauges. Once you get to a certain point, its time to stop polishing and start concealing or saving for a repaint.
 
What Yakky said :xyxthumbs



Once the clear gets too thin it loses its UV protection characteristics and then it's repaint time.



SO...this gets back to my usual rant about the need to develop marring-free wash techniques so you only have to correct the paint once in a blue moon.



IMO if you have to polish more than once a year then something's *VERY* wrong, and I don't even do it *nearly* that often (even on the Carbon Metallic Yukon XLD that I use for a dog-hauler). While correction gets the lion's share of attention here at Autopia, it oughta be a very infrequent thing.
 
Accumulator said:
What Yakky said :xyxthumbs



Once the clear gets too thin it loses its UV protection characteristics and then it's repaint time.



SO...this gets back to my usual rant about the need to develop marring-free wash techniques so you only have to correct the paint once in a blue moon.



IMO if you have to polish more than once a year then something's *VERY* wrong, and I don't even do it *nearly* that often (even on the Carbon Metallic Yukon XLD that I use for a dog-hauler). While correction gets the lion's share of attention here at Autopia, it oughta be a very infrequent thing.
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Your right this forum makes it sound like paint correction is needed often! I guess its just because you guys do a lot of details on different cars.
 
I got my Griot's machine today, and comparing it to my 7424XP, if feels much smoother - even smoother than my Flex. I only laid down some wax, so I didn't get past speed 3, but will try some more tomorrow.



For $107 shipped from the Amazon guys, that is a huge bargain. They shipped really fast, too... A+ experience with the Amazon vendor (other than I guess I would have liked tracking info, but not a big deal).
 
lee@glosshaus said:
I got my Griot's machine today, and comparing it to my 7424XP, if feels much smoother - even smoother than my Flex. I only laid down some wax, so I didn't get past speed 3, but will try some more tomorrow.



For $107 shipped from the Amazon guys, that is a huge bargain. They shipped really fast, too... A+ experience with the Amazon vendor (other than I guess I would have liked tracking info, but not a big deal).
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+1 Just got mine today too!! Love the machine WAY less vibration than my old PC
 
Mine gets going on Sunday on flat black BMW paint with problems. Only waiting for my yellow Megs. pads so will go with orange LC pad and 205, UNO and Opt. Polish and see who wins the marring removal challenge!
 
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