Experiment: Mr. Clean Eraser used on paint

In an act of late night desperation, I tried Magic Eraser to remove some stubborn adhesive from my race car when I was removing old vinyl graphics. It didn't do much for the adhesive, but it scratched the surrounding paint pretty badly. It did polish out, but I will not be trying it again.
 
the point coupe is making needs to be boldly understood on this thread, keep in mind this threads title is safer wetsanding alternative. by a show of hands who thinks that paint transfer=wetsand?



im glad the eraser did virtually the same thing clay would do, and glad the thread starter got good results regardless of product usage, however for lamens reasoning, this thread should be retitled just in case someone only reads the first post.
 
VaSuperShine said:
the point coupe is making needs to be boldly understood on this thread, keep in mind this threads title is safer wetsanding alternative. by a show of hands who thinks that paint transfer=wetsand?



im glad the eraser did virtually the same thing clay would do, and glad the thread starter got good results regardless of product usage, however for lamens reasoning, this thread should be retitled just in case someone only reads the first post.



I agree a rename is in order. 've tried to rename the thread as "a potential alternative to wetsanding for novices" but the change won't show up in the thread listings. Hmmm. Any tips?



I'd like to avoid renaming this thread to something about paint transfer since the intent of the thread was not to focus on removing just paint transfer, which it did admirably, but on how effectively it worked at removing some deep scratches. I thought it might work as a potential alternative to wetsanding for novices for bad scratches that cannot be polished out w/ compound.



I got to reading up on the product and turns out it is made of "melamine." Melamine is used by Mr. Clean for this product as well as by another company (see attached MSDS for product info). Also see this link for more details on the pads:



Homes: A hand for Mr. Clean
 

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felthove said:
I agree a rename is in order. 've tried to rename the thread as "a potential alternative to wetsanding for novices" but the change won't show up in the thread listings. Hmmm. Any tips?





Homes: A hand for Mr. Clean





I dunno how to rename threads, i tried before in the edit option but it never showed up different only as the initial thread name. :bigups for not taking any opinions/criticizms the wrong way, just trying to help.
 
VaSuperShine said:
no, how about mr clean erases paint transfer.
Well, that's just it . . . According to the OP, it not only removed paint transfer, but apparently worked on a deeper scratch, as well.



How about, "Experiment: Mr. Clean Eraser used on paint"? I'll switch it to that for now. Also, I think the thread contents make it pretty clear that this is experimental, use at your own risk, etc.



I'd like to see someone with access to a scrap panel give this a try on various isolated scratches, and follow it (as you would with wetsanding) with a compound/polish to see just what happens. As I understand it, the eraser is basically a melamine foam that acts as a very fine sandpaper (Melamine foam) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. I can understand why the mfr. recommends against using it on paint; the average consumer isn't equipped to remove the resulting micromarring. We're not average consumers, though . . . it may be that the eraser does have a place *for us* when used for paint correction, but until someone plays guinea pig/pioneer, we won't know for sure.



Tort
 
The Eraser is made from ground fiberglass. That is why the manufacturer suggest not using on paint. They like to cover their bases.
 
I was under the impression that the magic eraser cleaned because it has formaldehyde in it, but I don't know jack squat about chemicals.



I'll be interested to see the results of a test panel.
 
This is from a chemical engineer on another board concerning the ME. I always thought it was just an abrasive looking at the MSDS, but apparently, there are some chemicals in there as well:



Magic Eraser = Formaldehyde-Melamine-Sodium Bisulfite Copolymer.



Acetone is a ketone... carbonyl group is on the middle carbon of propane..... Formaldhyde is an aldehyde where the carbonyl group is at the end of the carbon chain (however there is only one carbon).... The magic eraser polymer structure links the formaldehyde with melamine (you know one of those poisons in the recent pet food contamination) and makes the compound into a ketone (the carbonyl is no longer at the end of the chain)... It's just easier to tell people it is acetone because people can relate to nail polish remover and it's properties....





What ever the semantics are it's still a hydrocarbon-based compound that has the ability to act as a solvent for other hydrocarbons.
 
TortoiseAWD said:
I'd like to see someone with access to a scrap panel give this a try on various isolated scratches, and follow it (as you would with wetsanding) with a compound/polish to see just what happens. Tort



Given that I brought it up I am more than happy to put together a few photos, but if anyone else wants to do it feel free. I should be able to do it this weekend but given that it's Father's Day I may be occupied. Hey wait a minute -- If it's Father's Day I should be able to do what ever the fu*K I want!!!:woot:
 
No promises but I have a dark blue scrap panel ready to go. Should have some time tomorrow afternoon.



(I figure if I posted that I will feel more like people are counting on me to do it, otherwise I'll just end up putting it off.) :)
 
felthove said:
So will I be sued and banned if blue zero mars the heck out of his panel? :)



Only if I can't get the marring out. :grinno:



First I'll have to take a screw driver and put a light scratch in it. Don't worry, it's junk anyway. I'll do a side by side of that and wet sanding with 2500 grit (that's all the finer I have on hand). Then run over it with a PC. Sorry, don't have a rotary.
 
boy makes me want to think twice before i post anything. i can't beleive all the negative discussion about a product some guy used and had good results, i think he just wanted to share it with everyone do y'all have to be so touchy? just take it for what it is, it works for him.
 
blucpe said:
boy makes me want to think twice before i post anything. i can't beleive all the negative discussion about a product some guy used and had good results, i think he just wanted to share it with everyone do y'all have to be so touchy? just take it for what it is, it works for him.





Um yeah we are past that now
 
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