Experienced detailer looking for guidance…why is this happening? (Many pics)

SpoolinNoMore said:
I've done numerous dark vehicles with Griot's clay and have never once induced marring. I also go through my final touch as clay lube like its going out of style...have never tried soapy water, it seems much more cost-efficient :) Is that still in-style clay lube? What dilution and what soap are you using (dawn if polishing and normal liquid hand soap if just claying before another LSP layer?).



I to have had good luck with mothers or Griots yellow clay. It is almost to fine for me. I alos like to use Turtle wax Ice instant detailer as my lube. I Like the TWID better than mothers or megs and better than ONR. It has a lot of lubricity and is cheap at Big Lots when I get it there.
 
The Griot's I received a few weeks ago is extremely tacky and I'm pretty sure its gonna wear itself down on my hands by the time it becomes too contaminated for use. It has a definite clay smell and golden yellow in color, looks like the same color as what is on the Mother's box so it could very well still be the same :noidea:
 
dfazekas said:
All US clay is made by Auto Magic, so no matter if its Sonus or Megs, fine grade should be fine grad



There are some much lower priced clay imports out there other than Auto Magic if you look hard enough. Most well known companies carries only the Auto Magic though. (Auto Magic has the automotive clay patent in the US and has sued companies in the past that imported.
 
I never knew that automotive clay was *that* protected of a patent here. Kinda seems ridiculous for such a generically covered auto detailing technique.
 
Downgear, try to marr that Honda with a microfiber towel. Yep, seriously. You'll see that even with a fluffy MF, you can marr it no problem.



Honda Nighthawk/Berlina blacks and BMW Jet blacks are simply this soft. IMO a coating is a MUST for these colors.
 
Never knew you could damage so much with clay. I also have the GG clay, but I have a black Infiniti, and the paint is said to be pretty hard. I have made scratches with a microfiber towel before though on accident. Does seem like too much pressure or not enough lube.
 
SpoolinNoMore said:
I never knew that automotive clay was *that* protected of a patent here. Kinda seems ridiculous for such a generically covered auto detailing technique.



Not ridiculous to Auto Magic. They made $4.1 million in one lawsuit, $3.6 million in another, and $1 million in another.



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you're in canada, I would suggest some riccardo clay, I find it super for soft paints......however it can still marr.



I would agree by the photo that the clay trails mean too much pressure and too little lube.



cheers,



GREG
 
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