Edge/presta wool pads, finaly allowed to order, dunno what cuts to get

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coupe

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The questions:



1. I seen a member say that with wool the cuts are a bit different like a light cut wool is like a medium cut foam, is that true?



2. I assume that with wool its more the function of the pad than the product. If this is true then i assume would really only wanna use a light/er compound/polish that has a long work time or is more oily? I primarily us the optimum line so if what im thinkin is true what which product should i use? OP? OC? OHC? Im assuming OP obviously becuase of its super/infinite work time.



3. With the blue polishing wool, how much cut does this really have, would hate to buy a wool pad that has little to no cut, i have foam pads for that ya know.



4. What sizes should i be lookin at? I was thinkin 6" since thats all i use now with my rotary (edge2K) but am starting to think i might wanna step up my pad sizes on it but now im not so sure, what all their sizes? Their website dosent say what they offer.
 
Well the 3 guys i know for sure who use them are rydawg, david fermani and tom p. But i know there are others here that use them also.



I have other questions also. Like washing them. Is that a no no with edge/presta wool? Ive seen others say its a no no washing wool but the ones who say that dont use edge/presta wool. If i cant wash them then i really need to know what compound polish to use with them other wise i might destroy the pad.



I can really only buy 3 at most so i really need to know what their cut is relative to foam pads. Would hate to end up with 1-3 pads that i cant use ya know, either being to aggresive or not aggresive enough ect.
 
From my experience and from what I've read, wool pads do cut faster than foam... so your statement above would be correct, light cutting wool is more aggressive than or similar to medium cutting foam
 
unless you have serious correcting to do I'd skip the black. yellow, green, blue and white and the lambswool. get the double sided pads yellow on both sides, green and blue combo and finishing combos. you can also order combos of wool on one side and the corresponding foam on the other.
 
Only need 2 what? Im trying to buy only 2 pads (double sided), 3 at most. Of all the wools what 3 would be must haves?



I am going to be wetsanding but with only 2500+ so i dont think i will need black either.
 
Black/yellow

Green double sided



is what I'd get, I do most cars with green and UCCL on the whole car, occasionally yellow or black with ultra cutting creme regular on bad scratches/marring.
 
Well i dont want to get pads with 2 different sides, i want both sides the same. So from what it sounds like i would be set with green and yellow?



How about my other questions? Anyone able to set me straight on some of that?
 
Coupe said:
The questions:



1. I seen a member say that with wool the cuts are a bit different like a light cut wool is like a medium cut foam, is that true?



2. I assume that with wool its more the function of the pad than the product. If this is true then i assume would really only wanna use a light/er compound/polish that has a long work time or is more oily? I primarily us the optimum line so if what im thinkin is true what which product should i use? OP? OC? OHC? Im assuming OP obviously becuase of its super/infinite work time.



3. With the blue polishing wool, how much cut does this really have, would hate to buy a wool pad that has little to no cut, i have foam pads for that ya know.



4. What sizes should i be lookin at? I was thinkin 6" since thats all i use now with my rotary (edge2K) but am starting to think i might wanna step up my pad sizes on it but now im not so sure, what all their sizes? Their website dosent say what they offer.
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1 - Wool cannot be compared to foam! Cutting wool(LC white) is real silimar to polishing wool (LC yellow) in the way that each one cuts really good and much, much better/cleaner/easier than a foam. A cutting foam (yellow EDGE) is totally different that a polishing foam (blue/green EDGE) and will not provided the *easiest* cut in comparison to a polishing wool pad, even the lightest wool (foamed wool).

2 - Every finish is different. You have to consider condition, softness/hardness, and results anticipated to know what pad to use on each one. There's some black cars that automatically get wooled and there's some that I wouldn't use a wool on if my life depended on it. I would hope/think that if you had a product that could be worked a long time and had the tendancy to dust, I'd be afraid to use a wool on it because of the greater potential of creating swirls. Personally I prefer a product that is wet, does not dust and it's cutting as soon as you make your 1st pass. You want the product to do the work instead of the pad. A wool pad mostly makes my products perform easier and cleaner.

3- You can cut with a foam, but you can't polish with a wool. All wool pads cut(even blue wool), but as I've said before, they are not intended to finish. With some types/colors of paint, you can get away with just wool padding, but you will always bring out a better/deeper depth and shine if you foam pad afterwards.

4 - Buy a double sided EDGE wool pad set up. Have one side be a cutting side(Black) and the other a polishing(Green). You'll get the best of both worlds and can easily flip it over to compare which one works the best for your application. I'd also try the Yellow/Blue foam pad setup too.
 
Coupe said:
The questions:



1. I seen a member say that with wool the cuts are a bit different like a light cut wool is like a medium cut foam, is that true?



2. I assume that with wool its more the function of the pad than the product. If this is true then i assume would really only wanna use a light/er compound/polish that has a long work time or is more oily? I primarily us the optimum line so if what im thinkin is true what which product should i use? OP? OC? OHC? Im assuming OP obviously becuase of its super/infinite work time.



3. With the blue polishing wool, how much cut does this really have, would hate to buy a wool pad that has little to no cut, i have foam pads for that ya know.



4. What sizes should i be lookin at? I was thinkin 6" since thats all i use now with my rotary (edge2K) but am starting to think i might wanna step up my pad sizes on it but now im not so sure, what all their sizes? Their website dosent say what they offer.
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Sorry I have been very busy lately.



1. on wool the cuts are different from foam somewhat. Then again it is all what product you use also. If you want to keep it simple use the green edge wool or the yellow. Black is for heavy correcting, but it will not hack up the finish woth something like OP.



2. The percent of the wool and the percent of the synthetic is what makes the cut of the wool. The 100% twisted wool is the strongest.



3. The blue edge wool I have not used, but it's percent I would say it is mild. I would use foam at this point too. But I am sure they would be great on stubborn soft paint like honda or maybe even single stage.



4. Sizes really depend on what you like and prefer. I normally use 8" and I work fast with them. I can get the 8" pads to work on close to any vehicle without and tight issues. 6" to me takes more time and that is what foam is for. That is all preference though. On hoods or trucks a 8'' is the only way to go.



You might even want to try the new foamed wool also and I have heard great things about them.



5. On wool you should only use a polish with no grit on an avarage vehicle. Even on bad vehicles I still never use a polish with grit. If you want to keep it simple and smart along with correction along with cleaning the paint, use OP with a green edge wool pad. If you go OC then you will start taking clear off at this point.



6. I only use wool when it needs medium to heavy correction that has to be done fast and easy.
 
Coupe said:
I have other questions also. Like washing them. Is that a no no with edge/presta wool? Ive seen others say its a no no washing wool but the ones who say that dont use edge/presta wool. If i cant wash them then i really need to know what compound polish to use with them other wise i might destroy the pad.



I can really only buy 3 at most so i really need to know what their cut is relative to foam pads. Would hate to end up with 1-3 pads that i cant use ya know, either being to aggresive or not aggresive enough ect.
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Don't wash wool pads!! :grinno: Invest in a cheap spur and use it regularly before during and after every use.

Here's what you need to buy to do 99% of all buffing.

Black wool - EDGE - (Heavy Cutting)

Green Wool - EDGE - (Light Cutting)

Yellow Foam - EDGE - (Cutting)

Blue Foam - EDGE - (Polishing)

I think that if you buy these as 2 double sided setups, it would be about the same price as 3 individual pads. If I had to buy just 3, I'd get the black wool, yellow foam and a blue foam.
 
So where do i get a cheap spur? Are there spurs that are specific to wool pads?



From what you guys are saying it sounds like green wool and yellow wool would suite my needs well. Also sounds like using both with OP would be my best bet becuase of its low cut and infinite working time and zero dusting.



I think im gonna go with 8" on the wools and pick up 2 8" blue foams while im at it. The 6" are taking to long on hoods, roofs, truck beds ect, they have thier place just not on those types of areas.
 
Here are cleaning instructions from the mfr:



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This blue pad looks brand-new after a quick cleanup and has returned to its original shape and size following the washing.



Coupe, I've now got yellow (which I have not used), blue and green wool, all double-sided. Upon quick inspection, the material appears the same on all pads - - the only difference is the color :confused: Could the blend of the material be different for each pad? Sure, but it's difficult for me to discern if that's the case. Maybe somebody can ask the EDGE people if the pads are all the same.
 
I have to find wich store can send some Presta/Edge wool pads to Spain... I just have the one from Menzerna but I need more !! ;)
 
I have used the green and black edge wool on 2 cars now. I am in love. :D



Like Dave and Ryan have said the black is for heavy correction and cuts fast with presta 1500 even on hard clears. But it was not "out of hand" when I used that combo on heavy scuffs on my brothers dark blue dodge truck. Follow with green wool/presta 1500 and then a foam polishing pad and all is well, very well.



I spur my green/black wool after every other panel. I also soak in a bucket like Tom does with some APC. I rinse them out the next day.



I might be detailing a friend durango this w/e for the 3rd time. I plan on using green wool followed by some foam to clean it up.



The edge system with the wool is very smooth. Again I am in love. :woot2:
 
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