EDGE PC users:

NSXTASY said:
IMO, when speed 6 becomes an issue is when people try and do serious correction. It's just as much a problem with the limits of the PC as it with the adapters/BP. If you have problems with the Edge adapter, you likely need to step up to a rotary/cyclo/udm?.



There is no design flaw, it's just the fact that people try and do serious correction using their (Edge) system on a sander (PC). The vibration created by the PC is ridiculous when using at speed 6 for any length of time. The bogging of the PC doesn't help anything either, which is frequently the result of too much pressure exerted on the unit.



The answer is this, if you need to do correction, youre wasting your time with a PC. Just my opinion and experience. (P.S., I know that people use the PC and do some great work with it, I just find it a pain in the A$$ and time consuming/frustrating.)



Hopefully the UDM will alleviate some of the problems.



2 cents.
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I agree that for heavy correction, you'll have a much easier time with a different machine vs the PC (which is why I often use a Rotary in those circumstances). But that has absolutely nothing to do with the Edge Adapter.



The product itself is designed and marketed as D/A specific. As hundreds of people who post here have shown, correction is certainly possible using the PC, and a lot of it has to do with cranking the machine to full speed. Yeah, it vibrates a lot - but given that the edge adapter was specifically designed to work with the PC 7424, if it can't handle the vibration the machine puts out, it's inherently a flawed design.



Correction might be a pain in the *** with a PC, but it still works just fine. Many people here have used PC's daily for years on end, running almost exclusively at speed 6, with a standard backing plate and pad and not experienced a failure. Given that the edge system is supposed to adequately replace the backing plate and pad combo, it's not out of the question to assume that the product should be able to handle the same speeds as a standard backing plate.



And again, I use the Edge system myself on my PC and have had zero problems so far. YMMV obviously, and to Edge's credit, they're one of the best companies to deal with out there and I doubt they'd put up any type of fight replacing a failed agapter. It's the fact that they are now claiming the product itself shouldn't be used at full speed that bothers me. And regarding the UDM, and if the adapters fail with a PC, they'll probably fail with the UDM as well.
 
NSXTASY said:
I used the edge system for about eight months on PC and rotary. Great system, although I have had 2 adapters fail, (i.e. bearings pop out.), the Customer service is SUPERIOR, aaron and his staff are TERRIFIC.



I would not reccomend using it with the PC at 6 for extended periods. The reason being is that the PC has its limits and the vibration will eat up the adapters after a while. That being said, if you find yourself needing speed 6 use light pressure. Anything that requires more I would reccomend a rotary or possibly the new UDM, depending on its capabilities.



I wouldn't think about switching from the edge system EVER. I LOVE IT.



I know that I may sound like a broken record, but I can't stress how good the EDGE customer service is....you have a problem, anything, let them know, and in my experience...They take very good care of you.



Edit: I only had problems with the adapters on my PC after using it at speed 6 for correction and moderate pressure. The adapters lasted months before they failed. I have had ZERO problems with it for my rotary. Since knowing this I have not had a problem, and probably won't.
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new to these forums,what is edgeand udm?. I feel dumb,can't figure out the abbreviations! thanx.
 
Edge is a line of products for use with the Porter Cable dual action orbital sander.



UDM - Ultimate Detailing Machine being marketed by Autopia founder David B.. A souped up PC.
 
Autoeng said:
No, Edge is a line of products. Autogeek, the manufacturer, makes A LOT more than that.
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What i meant was they make alot more than just pads for the PC, thats just the tip of the iceberg for what they make.
 
Just based on what people have posted, (I have zero personal experience with the UDM), I'm not yet sure it will be an incredibly significant improvement over the PC. I am going to pick one (UDM) up for sure, however, a rotary is truely a must. Granted, so is a dual action/orbital.



You can't go wrong with the Edge setup, and as Coupe will attest to, the Wool is a great medium!
 
firegate said:
I agree that for heavy correction, you'll have a much easier time with a different machine vs the PC (which is why I often use a Rotary in those circumstances). But that has absolutely nothing to do with the Edge Adapter.



The product itself is designed and marketed as D/A specific. As hundreds of people who post here have shown, correction is certainly possible using the PC, and a lot of it has to do with cranking the machine to full speed. Yeah, it vibrates a lot - but given that the edge adapter was specifically designed to work with the PC 7424, if it can't handle the vibration the machine puts out, it's inherently a flawed design.



Correction might be a pain in the *** with a PC, but it still works just fine. Many people here have used PC's daily for years on end, running almost exclusively at speed 6, with a standard backing plate and pad and not experienced a failure. Given that the edge system is supposed to adequately replace the backing plate and pad combo, it's not out of the question to assume that the product should be able to handle the same speeds as a standard backing plate.



And again, I use the Edge system myself on my PC and have had zero problems so far. YMMV obviously, and to Edge's credit, they're one of the best companies to deal with out there and I doubt they'd put up any type of fight replacing a failed agapter. It's the fact that they are now claiming the product itself shouldn't be used at full speed that bothers me. And regarding the UDM, and if the adapters fail with a PC, they'll probably fail with the UDM as well.
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I totally agree with this statement. It's definitely a design flaw if it can't handle the capabilities of the PC if that's what it claims to do. That's the job of R&D as well as QA to work out issues such as this one.
 
firegate said:
I agree that for heavy correction, you'll have a much easier time with a different machine vs the PC (which is why I often use a Rotary in those circumstances). But that has absolutely nothing to do with the Edge Adapter.



The product itself is designed and marketed as D/A specific. As hundreds of people who post here have shown, correction is certainly possible using the PC, and a lot of it has to do with cranking the machine to full speed. Yeah, it vibrates a lot - but given that the edge adapter was specifically designed to work with the PC 7424, if it can't handle the vibration the machine puts out, it's inherently a flawed design.



Correction might be a pain in the *** with a PC, but it still works just fine. Many people here have used PC's daily for years on end, running almost exclusively at speed 6, with a standard backing plate and pad and not experienced a failure. Given that the edge system is supposed to adequately replace the backing plate and pad combo, it's not out of the question to assume that the product should be able to handle the same speeds as a standard backing plate.



And again, I use the Edge system myself on my PC and have had zero problems so far. YMMV obviously, and to Edge's credit, they're one of the best companies to deal with out there and I doubt they'd put up any type of fight replacing a failed agapter. It's the fact that they are now claiming the product itself shouldn't be used at full speed that bothers me. And regarding the UDM, and if the adapters fail with a PC, they'll probably fail with the UDM as well.
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Excellent statement, and well put.



Side note: Aaron's customer service is still top notch, and he and I remain in touch to solve this issue.
 
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