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lecchilo said:
There's not much to be confused about actually.



Scott basically uses D151 somewhere between my Light Polish Detail (1-step polishing) with M205 and a sealant and a regular wash & wax. It won't correct as much as M205 on rotary and probably won't last as long as KSG or something similar (never tested D151 durability so don't hate me D151 lovers haha) but it does some correction and it's much better for reviving the paint than a simple wash & wax, especially if clay is used beforehand.



This is why D151 is promising and widely used, because it's a good service to offer for those who want a bit more than a simple wash & wax, while you also don't have to really work it toward swirl removal and much correction. M205 is simply amazing in that it cuts very very well even on harder paints but finishes perfect on everything but very soft clear coats, which require something like PO85RD, FPII or similar.



You'll basically have to try both on the same car (do your own or friend's or parent's car...) and figure out which works better for you, and offer both if you come to that conclusion...



I'm sure it won't be hard to get a 4-8oz. sample of each for $5 or so from a member here... hell I'll even do it if I get time to go by the post office (I work 8-5 Mon-Fri and detail 8-6/7 weekends so really have no time for stuff like that)
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Wow busy man Ivan. I totally thought you did the detail thing full time. I could use to test it on a family members car or even my own. Recently purchased a brand new car and it has a ton of marring on it so that might be a great time to test that out.



Like you mentioned . . . . . i might just have to test them both out and see what fits into place and what i can offer in terms of finishing down, time and price.



Might have to place a order soon.



What's the pad of choice now days? I have only been using CCS but i have been hearing so much about flat pads i think i'm going to make the switch to either just LC Flats or the Hydro Tech pads.



Wanted to try the Uber pads but some say the foam isn't that great.



One last thing. SCOTT or IVAN . . . . how would you go about cleaning the wax applicators (orange meguiars type).
 
vtec92civic said:
Hahaha crap! That's Opti-Seal i must have got it mixed up with some other stuff. Man someone i knew was selling some of that stuff for cheap too. Makes me wish i jumped on it!



Pretty amazing on how it just disappears.
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optiseal is hella cheap, its the cheapest wowa sealant(under 25 for 8oz). i can send u some upgp if u want. its pretty much the same thing. :hifive:





also i got a fresh bottle of 205 that u can also have a sample of lol.

if u dont like the 205 then u can buy a gal of d151 and send ME a sample :2thumbs: hehehe
 
jaynick808 said:
optiseal is hella cheap, its the cheapest wowa sealant(under 25 for 8oz). i can send u some upgp if u want. its pretty much the same thing. :hifive:





also i got a fresh bottle of 205 that u can also have a sample of lol.

if u dont like the 205 then u can buy a gal of d151 and send ME a sample :2thumbs: hehehe
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hahahaha Jay! Wassssssup man. I'll take you up on that offer man. Let me know when you can jam some over my way. I can PM you my address on the other forum.



You ever try those Hydro Tech pads or what?
 
vtec92civic said:
Wow busy man Ivan. I totally thought you did the detail thing full time. I could use to test it on a family members car or even my own. Recently purchased a brand new car and it has a ton of marring on it so that might be a great time to test that out.



Like you mentioned . . . . . i might just have to test them both out and see what fits into place and what i can offer in terms of finishing down, time and price.



Might have to place a order soon.



What's the pad of choice now days? I have only been using CCS but i have been hearing so much about flat pads i think i'm going to make the switch to either just LC Flats or the Hydro Tech pads.



Wanted to try the Uber pads but some say the foam isn't that great.



One last thing. SCOTT or IVAN . . . . how would you go about cleaning the wax applicators (orange meguiars type).
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Well I probably work more hours sometimes but it is the 'side' job haha.



As for pads, I use Meguiar's old flat pads, 8006 and 9006, and LC flat pads. For rotary, 90% of the time it's 6.5" pads, and the other 10% is 4" or 5.5" LC pads for

tighter areas like bumpers, back of trunks, etc.... Sometimes I'll use 3" pads for isolated deep scratches. On the PC I use 5.5" pads 99.9% of the time, unless I need something smaller for correction where I don't feel safe using a rotary (usually concave surfaces on some of the rarer Porsches, etc.)



I do have some CCS pads and use them on occasion but definitely prefer flat pads over anything.
 
lecchilo said:
Well I probably work more hours sometimes but it is the 'side' job haha.



As for pads, I use Meguiar's old flat pads, 8006 and 9006, and LC flat pads. For rotary, 90% of the time it's 6.5" pads, and the other 10% is 4" or 5.5" LC pads for

tighter areas like bumpers, back of trunks, etc.... Sometimes I'll use 3" pads for isolated deep scratches. On the PC I use 5.5" pads 99.9% of the time, unless I need something smaller for correction where I don't feel safe using a rotary (usually concave surfaces on some of the rarer Porsches, etc.)



I do have some CCS pads and use them on occasion but definitely prefer flat pads over anything.
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excellent that is the samething that my buddy just told me. He will never use CCS pads again.



I would like to get some smaller pads for my makita for smaller areas like you mentioned. Maybe some 4" pads but then comes the part in figuring out what backing to run with. I was thinking of trying out the gloss it back plate but still am a little un-decided on that.



6.5" pads seem to be my go to size right now but that could change in the future or not.



I need to get a Flex or a new PC for some things. I had the older PC but sold it as i never used it. Now i wish i had it.
 
vtec92civic said:
excellent that is the samething that my buddy just told me. He will never use CCS pads again.



I would like to get some smaller pads for my makita for smaller areas like you mentioned. Maybe some 4" pads but then comes the part in figuring out what backing to run with. I was thinking of trying out the gloss it back plate but still am a little un-decided on that.



6.5" pads seem to be my go to size right now but that could change in the future or not.



I need to get a Flex or a new PC for some things. I had the older PC but sold it as i never used it. Now i wish i had it.
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I use a Meg's W66 backing plate for rotary with 6.5" pads and just a regular LC backing plate (I think 3" or 3.75") for 4" pads. I have another that's a little under 3" for 3" pads.
 
wow megs got some nice plates. I always thought they were a lot more expensive.



I'm taking a liking to the Meguiars W64 5" Rotary backing plate but the thing is they recommend you use that with a 6.5" Pad



I like the idea of the foam between the backing plate and the pad idea . . . . . i think i'll be picking up the Meg's W66 as well. Thanks Ivan.
 
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